“But violence is never the answer” says the person who then proceeds to open their phone and see the worst violence imaginable happen because of the people they voted for.
The violence even happens regardless of whoever we vote for, the problem is pacifism in the face of oppression just sides with the oppressor.
people’s reaction when i tell them our new govt could absolutely threaten to hang orban and his cronies unless they give back the public money they stole. oh no, that’s a bridge too far. they have a paper that says it’s theirs so now there’s nothing we can do.
I’m in Washington, Washington is 3,000 miles away ☹️
I like the idea of doing both.
The auth left really sure do hate being called auth left, don’t they?
What is “auth left?” Any leftist that supports the use of a socialist state?
You know the answer. Muh evil gommunism CCP Stalinist 10000000000000000000000 killed all at once, fucking tankie redfash complaining about genocide this and genocide that shut up and vote harder already”. Something like that. US election season is coming around so it’ll only get worse and more annoying
Oh yea, they’ll pretend we all disappear after election day after we’ve ruined the cycle or whatever.
You know fine well what it is, an authoritarian state with a great deal of control over the people living under it. You can argue that this authoritarianism is justifiable because it’s the best way to bring about communism, but it’s still auth left. Heck, we currently live under an extremely authoritarian right wing system, so it could be less authoritarian than the current system but still remain authoritarian in the full balance considering alternatives, and thus auth left.
I hope this helps clear things up for you.
What is a “non-authoritarian” state? You didn’t answer my question, you just restated your assertion. What “alternatives” exist?
My position is very clear: the state is a tool by which one class oppresses the others, and this is by definition authoritarian. A working class state, no matter how democratic it is for the working classes, is still authoritarian as it oppresses the rest. This is a necessary step forward towards stateless society, however.
Okay, great, so we’re all in agreement here, Marxism-Leninism is auth left. That’s the only point I care to discuss here.
Again, you never clarified, do you mean anything with a state is “auth?”
Not really, if people wanna do our advertising for us by drawing a clear distinction between us and the kind of leftists who can’t build anything useful then they should be our guest.
Violence begets violence. Whoever stops the cycle has true power.
What do you define as violence? Property destruction? Denying insurance claims? This is a vacuous statement.
What is “true power” if not the ability to dictate the direction of society? Should the working classes not be able to direct society, and instead have to slave away under the rule of capital, who very much are okay with using violence?
Pacifism is only a choice if you have the capability to enact violence. If you don’t have the ability to exert force, pacifism isn’t a choice; it’s a chain that your oppressors have put on you, while calling it jewelry. The entire point of pacifism is to send the message “we can if we want to, and we choose not to. This is your chance to start negotiations in good faith, because the only thing stopping us is that active choice.”
In short, pacifism without the capacity for violence is simply sparkling victimization. Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
A 9mm would be preferred at least.
fascifists, now that’s a good word.
Incoherent
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Somehow, if you replaced Marx with the founding fathers the US deifies, the meme would still work. That’s where we’re at in the liberalism-to-fascism pipeline.
