• Redredme@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    No, they want to be called LA class nuclear powered attack submarine.

    We’re in shit posting after all.

    Happy Xmas, ya filthy animal!

  • UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Do women wanna be called “women” tho? I don’t mean this rhetorically, but as a genuine question.

    I for example, would hate to be called a “man”. It just makes me sound old. I would prefer being referred to as “male”, or anything that isn’t the word “man”. This is applicable to a lot of my friends too. Don’t women feel the same way?

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      Apparently not. The world would be a much better place if we all stopped making such a big deal about specific trigger words and focused on the ideas being communicated. If someone’s intent was to be an asshole then sure, get the pitchforks out, but make it clear it’s the idea that’s bad. Don’t just scapegoat the word. If they weren’t obviously trying to be a dick then calibrate your response accordingly.

      To put it another way, if you’re upset about the use of a word that a scientist might use to describe something then you’re probably being overly sensitive.

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        6 months ago

        science is often biased by cultural ideas. biology, medicine, and psychology, have been used to pathologise or naturalise things along social lines. this is also reflected in the language they created.

        i think it is important for this language to be reevaluated, as culture and the scientific view on the world changes.

        with the distinction between gender and sex becomming more popular, having compleletly destinct words might for example be positive…

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          6 months ago

          No, they are not for you to reevaluate because you hold no knowledge or expertise in these fields. Demanding for outsiders to interfere with the scientific process because of their silly little biases and mental disabilities is a deranged opinion.

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    6 months ago

    Meanwhile: males, dudes, guys, homies, fellas, bois, bros, lads, laddie, mates, geezers, chaps, gents, boss, hoss, cheif, buddy, pal, son, sonny, sonny boy, muchacho, hombre, old timer, Mac, Joe…

    “Yeah what’s up?”

    I don’t think we need to cancel Guys and Dolls just yet.

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        Which just so happens to be the perfect segue for me to pitch my proposal to make ‘cunt’ the de facto (gender neutral, naturally) pronoun/collective pronoun.

        • DillyDaily@lemmy.world
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          I’m on board!

          I’m a big fan of the word cunt in all of its current uses it’s my preferred slang term for my own, though it’s rare to find someone who’s not taken aback by that in the bedroom.

          Would it be a grammatically consistent pronoun? “oh, someone left cunt wallet, I hope cunt come get it” or do we need a cunt/cunter situation? So cunt can collect cunter wallet.

    • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 months ago

      Casual erasure of post-op trans people is really fascinating to me. Like, how did our culture shift from the first thing people think about trans people being “have you had tHe sURgErY yet???” to “if you have a vagina and are a woman you are cis”?

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        6 months ago

        i know this is an old comment, but i wanted to reply anyway. im sorry for my comment. i hadnt thought about post-op trans ppl at all.

        to clarify however, it wasnt the “first thing” i thought abt trans ppl, im trans myself actually.

        i guess ive had too much contact with pre-op or never-op trans ppl and too little with post-op ppl to have this on my radar.

        i will try to be better in the future!

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      When did “people with vaginas” unironically become a way to refer to anyone, especially as an alternative to “female”?

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        People with vaginas is the right terminology if discussing something that pertains to vaginas. Eg. “People with vaginas should make sure to see a gynecologist regularly.” in this case, saying “women” would exclude/misgender many trans and intersex people who have vaginas but are not women, while also including some women who do not have vaginas and would not need to see a gynecologist

        • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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          The person you replied to said “female” though. As far as I know, “Man”/“Woman” is on the gender side while “Male”/“Female” is on the sex side, based purely on things like reproductive organs, chromosomes and hormones.

          Although taking all three into account may just make it hard to determine. But it does imply that “male woman” and “female man” are also valid combinations.

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            Sex is a lot more complicated than male/female. There’s a bunch of different sex characteristics that make up “sex” and people can have all sorts of different combinations of them. If you just use a male/female binary, that doesn’t tell people what sex characteristic you’re referring to. Maybe something affects people based on chromosones, in which case people who are xy but otherwise “female” (like with cais) would go in the “male” category and vice versa. Or maybe something affects people based on hormones, in which case transgender people taking hrt would have to be categorized based on that. If you say “male/female”, no one knows if you’re talking about hormones, or genitals, or chromosones, or gonads, or whatever else, so it’s best to be specific and use language like “people with [body part]”

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    6 months ago

    clearly ingenue is the correct choice

    or for a potential fun comment thread: is dude gendered? I grew up in a place where a lot of people called everyone dude regardless of gender. That said, when I’ve brought this up, some people get real heated about it.

    • 1609_kilometers@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Dude can be gendered

      and some people will think you’re just looking for an excuse to call men people who aren’t, if you say that dude is not gendered to you

      we’re on the internet after all, and no one knows the real intentions of the people behind the screen

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        You know I’ve said “dude” all my life and I still use it all the time in regards to everyone. If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person, but now that I really think about it I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term in a derogatory way. Like ever. For me it’s always been a happy/inclusive word for addressing friends. My only worry for now is that saying it shows my age.