I absolutely despise these implied “trick question” mentality that HR and job market shills have.
“I’ll care about the company if you make me a shareholder, until then, not my problem.”
Exactly, unless it’s a cooperative all I care about is my compensation.
Capitalism would be slightly more bearable if all companies dropped the “we care about you” shtick and just straight up told you their only motive is profit and that they’re here to exploit you.
Right now we’re literally living under capitalism but you’re not allowed to point that out to any of the capitalists. I’m so damn sick of this stupid charade I have to play just for the privilege of being a wage slave.
No it wouldn’t. :)
(with ping-ping tables)
Do they really think people give a shit about ping-pong tables? I don’t care about your little table games, pay me.
All I want to do is get in, do my job, and go home, which is where I really want to be. I like my coworkers well enough, but I’m not interested in socialising with them in or outside of work.
It’s a tactic these dipshits use to downplay your legitimate concerns. Nobody gives a fuck about ping pong tables, snacks, paid lunches.
Pay well or fuck off, the end.
incredible instance name btw
Just being in HR gives you some kind of brainworm but being in HR and posting about it with what seems to be a personal account is more like having a brain shai-hulud
Shai-Hulud actually does some good though. Bless the Maker and His water. Bless the coming and going of Him. May His passage cleanse the world. May He keep the world for His people.
Considering the rest of the post I would guess that HR sees it as a signal that the place allows their employees to leave their desk and not pretend to work for 15 minutes (morally repugnant to an American Protestant)
It’s playing into the 2010s culture of workplaces being “cool hangouts with beer taps,“ and acting like that’s all millennials care about.
What they never understood is yeah, that stuff could be nice I guess in certain contexts, but that’s not why we went to work. None of us forced those companies to do that shit. And some of us even didn’t like it, because those places could often blur the lines between a place of business and a place for socializing, which often led to women being sexually harassed.
WeWork anyone?
Agree, but I’ll say of those gimmicks on site subsidized food places and gyms are genuinely nice. Like I don’t want to play ping pong at work, but if you’re saving me a few gym and food trips a week I’m down.
Food and gym could be sweet. Cold brew on tap too.
And some of us even didn’t like it, because those places could often blur the lines between a place of business and a place for socializing
To be clear, this was always the goal. If an employer could have you work 80 hours a week and sleep under your desk, they would. The goal is to give employees things to do around the office, so they don’t feel the need to actually leave work. Because if you’re playing ping pong in the break room, you’re immediately available for your manager to go “hey, we have a project for you.” Even if you’re not clocked in while playing ping pong, you’re essentially on call.
Oh definitely. And companies like Google loved when you hung around and workshopped ideas because then you wouldn’t take it for yourself, you would give it to them. And if you didn’t give it to them, they would show how you worked on it at work.
Those were gimmicks from that boom time, when wages were generally high and sooner folks switched jobs within weeks. Perks mattered in that period. Then wages dropped but the mindset that these perks mattered remained.
Yeah the only “perks” I give a shit about are healthcare and PTO lol
I have a friend who used to work in HR at some point, before he decided to leave and rejoin college. From what he tells me, it seems like many HR people hate this shit as well. But they’re simply supposed to work like this. There’s this nebulous concept of what they should do, and they do it as a whole, even if most of the individuals don’t like it. The destruction of individual decision making, and any kind of critical thinking and discussion is an aspect of capitalism that isn’t discussed enough.
I am now certain that no amount of re-education could ever turn “human resources” back into humans.
Feels like they are both made up scenarios for rage-bait. In both scenarios, the first two questions are completely relevant and the third is only a problem if you’re already looking for a problem.
the third is only a problem if you’re already looking for a problem.
“Is vacation 28 days” should not be a question, it should be the minimum mandated by law. “Will you work weekends” should rarely be a question, it should be heavily regulated and only allowed for positions where it’s truly required (and never to compensate for management fuckups).
Feels like they are both made up scenarios for rage-bait.
Actually for both of them, the conclusion is correct. “The second they’ll get a better offer they’ll vanish” - no shit, this is how it works under capitalism. Want to keep them? Make a better offer. “The second they find someone to do the same for less pay, they’ll fire you” - no shit, this is how it works under capitalism. Want to make that harder to do? Join or organize a union, and otherwise fight for your labor rights.
Funny indeed
@yogthos
Capitalism in a nutshellyup
Is this on linkedin? Of so, what a rare sight.
Looks like threads maybe?
Bummer.
