• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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        9 months ago

        The debate doesnt revolve around if someone is happy or Jesus, its typically about what is reality and if children can consent.

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              9 months ago

              No no, this is an ad hominem: you’re an idiot.

              I was pointing out that your statement was a strawman. But really it’s just a false statement. A lie, if you will.

              There has never been any discussion about children consenting with respect to trans rights. The parents and/or medical professionals are ALWAYS involved in the decision.

              But as I said, you’re an idiot.

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                No no, this is an ad hominem: you’re an idiot.

                That isn’t really an ad hominem. It’s just an insult. An ad hominem would be: “What validity could that argument have when you, the person defending it, is an idiot?” Same goes for the other user’s complaint.

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                9 months ago

                Its funny how people like you feel so bad about yourself that you have to try to belittle others to make youself feel better. You calling me an idiot doesnt hurt me in anyway, it makes me feel bad for you, and the life that you made for yourself or was made for you.

                Of course its about children consenting, but you are not going to have a good honest conversation, you just want to throw poo around, and act like a adolescent.

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          9 months ago

          Sure, sometimes it is discussed whether or not children can transition medically (p.s: it’s why they have to go through an army of doctors and psychologists), but to deny that the debate doesn’t revolve around if someone is happy or religion is ignorant.

          Countless times I have seen people make the argument that transitioning has a high regret rate, countless of times I’ve seen people invoke religion and try to say being trans is a sin (what with the whole bible quote about men not wearing women clothing).

          So when people debate about trans people, 90% of the time it is about someone’s happiness and getting in the way of it.

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          9 months ago

          If the debate is about reality, it’s about time the side opposing trans rights opens a scientific journal explaining the differences in the neuroanatomy of trans people and what are empirically proven methods to heal the distress provoked by gender dysphoria. Unless you actually don’t care about any of that, and the debate isn’t really about facts, but rather that the prospect that we may decide to accept that humans are a little more complicated than you had assumed personally annoys you.

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            9 months ago

            You can laugh if you wish, but I am just telling you what the debate is about. If you want to further division then just call the other side names, and make things worse, you have that right.

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              9 months ago

              If you want to further division then just call the other side names, and make things worse, you have that right.

              This is just a strawman

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      9 months ago

      Yeah nobody brings religion into these debates. They just say things like “God doesn’t make mistakes” without even realising the irony.