• AdmiralShat@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    China has an active genocide, and they have some pretty strong nationalism and propaganda.

    Russia is currently brutally invading another country, and they don’t even get real elections.

    The fact that the US was the only one of the world’s major powers you could list as an example doing atrocious shit that also has a history with propaganda, is telling.

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      I don’t think US elections are terribly real either. You get whoever the Republicans want or you get whoever the Democrats want. If you don’t want either of those and vote for someone else you risk your least preferred candidate winning. You don’t get to decide who runs.

      I’m not saying I like Russia and China but you can’t claim that their actions in anyway justify what the US does.

      Also just because this post is about the US it doesn’t mean the other atrocities aren’t happening. Do we have to mention what China and the US are doing whenever the Ukraine war is brought up? Seems like a bit of a silly argument really

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      The US has been the de facto leader of the imperial core since WW2, and its government is thus directly or indirectly responsible for a large part of the suffering in the world right now — be it directly through wars, genocides/massacres, sanctions, embargoes, or indirectly through economic imperialism or neocolonialism — so yes, that should be the first country anyone comes up with. Probably also because I happen to be from one of its victim countries.

      China has an active genocide

      All claims of this come from imperial core countries or “independent” orgs funded by its corporations.

      The Organization of Islamic Cooperation and delegates from dozens of Global South countries approve of China’s handling of the ETIM (a problem deliberately created by the US through Afganistan by the way) and deny western claims. This lines up with what the hundreds of millions of annual tourists to the region say.

      Between the western govs responsible for killing, and continuing to kill, millions of muslims in the past few decades alone throughout Africa, Middle-East, Asia, and global south countries without a recent history of doing so (they are the victims rather), I for one know which not to trust.

      Russia

      The US colony has killed three times more civilians in its genocide in the past few months than the Russian military has in 2 years in its proxy war with the US. This isn’t remotely comparable.

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        8 months ago

        Gotta love the “but is China REALLLLLLLY committing a genocide if China denies it” angle

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          China denies it

          Who cited China?

          The majority of countries denying the western claims are muslim-majority Global South ones

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            The majority of countries denying the western claims are muslim-majority Global South ones

            You mean most of the countries that back the Chinese are countries that heavily rely on China or are extremely invested in by China, and often times ones that have relatively poor views of or are sanctioned by the US? That’s crazy, would’ve never imagined.

            I thought those same governments’ treatment of Palestine has shown that muslim-majority countries aren’t afraid to use other muslims as pawns for their own political and economic gain?

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                So you’re saying 6 people independently check your comments and upvote them within less than a minute, and then come back to do it again when you comment, within a minute? Just strange is all I’m saying

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                  The comment I replied to also had 4 upvotes and some downvotes in 1 or 2 minutes. Just means the thread is active.

                  Edit: Most of the new comments not taking the US’s side also have exactly 3 downvotes right now. Are those alts? Lol

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          Love how you have to make up shit they never said because there’s no argument against it.

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          Idk man. As far as I understood, the main post is about the US, which the comment you replied to also talked about. And then you’re wondering why that person talked about the US and not other countries.