In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

    • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 days ago

      Except PrivacyGuides literally steals (including money) from PrivacyTools & PrivacyTools have made it clear to mark something as promotional

      • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
        2·
        2 days ago

        Except PrivacyGuides literally steals (including money)

        False.

        PrivacyTools have made it clear to mark something as promotional

        No they absolutely do not, stop being a shill

        From https://www.privacytools.io/donate

        The only sponsorship of PrivacyTools.io so far is the service “Redact.dev” click here to view the example. To avoid confusion, these entries will be clearly marked as a sponsored entry.

        I will make this very clear: No tool or service will be added here just because an affiliate program is offered.

        Clearly false when the VPN page lists NordVPN as the best pick, followed by Surfshark and an and for Incogni at the bottom of the page.

    • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 days ago

      You do know that PT cleary mentions who sponsors them (& PG stole funds & people from PT)<br> Honestly every single TechLore personnel are pretty much liars & thieves & shills(that Aragon guy was the one who stole money)

      • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        2 days ago

        PG stole funds

        Following this, BurungHantu made false accusations about Jonah stealing donations from the project. BurungHantu had over a year since the alleged incident occurred, and yet he never made anyone aware of it until after the Privacy Guides migration. BurungHantu has been repeatedly asked for proof and to comment on the reason for his silence by the team and the community, and has not done so.

        From https://www.privacyguides.org/en/about/privacytools/

        people from PT

        the pt people voluntarily and unanimously moved to pg

        • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 days ago

          Suuuuuure cuz You said so, The foundations of PG were built on a lie & PT still has the updated info

          • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
            1·
            1 day ago

            The foundations of PG were built on a lie & PT still has the updated info

            Suuuuuure cuz You said so

            I linked many sources, where are yours? There’s no lies here, Burung was absent from github, the reddit and all the chats for multiple years and now wants them back to delete all the evidence.

            PT still has the updated info

            Like NordVPN and Surfshark? The same thing PrivacyTools itself warned about promoting in their blog that’s now deleted?