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    19 hours ago

    No nation should allow the US surveillance arms like Facebook, twitter, instagram, youtube and reddit to operate within their borders. These are US controlled entities that serve to push pro-US foreign policy, and hoover up all global communications.

    For example, the most popular social media platform in India, is facebook. The US controls the main communication platform of a country with a population much larger than its own.

    Countries should realize what a dangerous threat it is to have US companies control your social media.

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      2 hours ago

      It’s funny that we’re arguing this on a platform that’s legal in the US, and banned in China. Is lemmy.ml a US surveillance op too? Are you? Am I?

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      18 hours ago

      There is a difference between a corporation manipulating their own service and a government controlling the entire internet for the nation.

      No one is forcing you to use US corporate social media. Everyone needs internet access.

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        14 hours ago

        US corporations are the US government. They outright own it. US media is state media with extra steps.

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          You don’t need to use social media to access the internet.

          How many times must I write the difference between corporate controlled platforms and governmentally controlled internet?

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            How many times must I write the difference between corporate controlled platforms and governmentally controlled internet?

            Oh, the burden you must bear dealing with us know nothings.

            The same corporations that own the media own the government. There is no difference between the two in the United States. This “democracy” is a sham. This is an oligarchy. How many times do you need to be told this before you get it?

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        18 hours ago

        There is a difference between a corporation manipulating their own service and a government controlling the entire internet for the nation.

        There really isn’t a fundamental difference here. US capitalists run the country, control its media, and stand above it’s political system. It’s military/defense apparatus, and police function as their hired goons.

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        dude, the CIA controls everything. Probably since at least the 60’s. Use your brain. Why do you think the most far right and “far left” media agree on the SAME THINGS when it comes to US foreign policy? US media is JUST as free as Chinese media, which is not at all. Read about the twitter leaks. Feds just emailed them to take shit down and they did it.

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            The Chinese people overwhelmingly approve of their government, so they have no reason to overthrow it.

            Meanwhile the US congress government have gotten <20% approval ratings for years. You should probably take some lessons from the PRC on how they overthrew an oppressive government and internal reactionaries, because they have more experience at it than most countries.

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              I wouldn’t trust statistics from relating to political issues that could get one punished in a country, people won’t want to voice their true opinion in fear of punishment

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            9 hours ago

            They already overthrew their government and embraced socialism. You act like they want to overthrow their current government. They live decent lives. Better than ours. Our media lies to you about them. They are largely happy. I know it’s impossible to imagine that, what with living in this nightmare, but it’s possible when your government treats you as more than consumables to be exploited for profits.