• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    No, the logic for a Pac Man ghost is a solid state machine

    Stupid people attributing intelligence to something that is probably not is a shameful hill to die on.

    Your god is just an autocomplete bot that you refuse to learn about outside the hype bubble

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      4 days ago

      Okay, what is your definition of AI then, if nothing burned onto silicon can count?

      If LLMs aren’t AI, then absolutely nothing up to this point probably counts either.

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        4 days ago

        since nothing burned into silicon can count

        Oh noo you called me a robot racist. Lol fuck off dude you know that’s not what I’m saying

        The problem with supporters of AI is they learned everything they know from the companies trying to sell it to them. Like a 50s mom excited about her magic tupperware.

        AI implies intelligence

        To me that means an autonomous being that understands what it is.

        First of all these programs aren’t autonomous, they need to be seeded by us. We send a prompt or question, even when left alone to its own devices it doesn’t do anything until it is given an objective or reward by us.

        Looking up the most common answer isn’t intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm, just regurgitating the dataset

        These models do not reason, though some do a very good job of trying to convince us.

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          2 days ago

          you called me a robot racist.

          …what?

          Looking up the most common answer isn’t intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm

          In order for that to be true, the entire dataset would need to be contained within the LLM. Which it is not. If it were, a model wouldn’t have to undergo training.

          AI implies intelligence

          You seem to be mistaking ‘intelligence’ for ‘human-like intelligence’. This is not how AI is defined. AI can be dumber than a gnat, but if it’s capable of making decisions based on stimulus without each set of stimulus and decision being directly coded into it, then it’s AI. It’s the difference between what is ACTUALLY called AI, and when a sci-fi show or novel talks about AI.

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            24 hours ago

            Yeah I’m not interested in how you put words in my mouth to fit the talking points you were hoping I would fall for

            We’re done here

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          4 days ago

          To me that means an autonomous being that understands what it is.

          A little thought experiment: How would you determine whether another human being understands what it is? What would that look like in a machine?

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      4 days ago

      Okay but if i say something from outside the hype bubble then all my friends except chatgpt will go away.

      Also chatgpt is my friend and always will be, and it even told me i don’t have to take the psych meds that give me tummy aches!

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      4 days ago

      As far as I’m concerned, “intelligence” in the context of AI basically just means the ability to do things that we consider to be difficult. It’s both very hand-wavy and a constantly moving goalpost. So a hypothetical pacman ghost is intelligent before we’ve figured out how to do it. After it’s been figured out and implemented, it ceases to be intelligent but we continue to call it intelligent for historical reasons.