Nah, they decided to buy a more affordable car with only a 3-star crash rating because they decided to get stressed about their only financing option being complete dogshit because of a wrecked economy, because they decided to have a job that required going into the office.
If my brother, at a very young age, had made the reasonable decision of pursuing higher education as a path in life, and due to a wide variety of circumstances is in financial trouble and I could help…
Guess what, I’m helping. I do not give a fuck if there’s a difference, my guy. And I also know my brother would stop in the middle of a career defining work meeting and come rescue me if I was in trouble.
And I wouldn’t trade that kind of relationship for your world view.
So when a tradesman’s back finally gives out and he gets fired for not showing up to work, he should not be eligible for unemployment, medicaid, medicare, food stamps, housing assistance, subsidized health insurance, or any other publicly funded assistance. That’s his problem to solve.
After all, the data has always shown that this is the sacrifice you make by not going to college. Degrees have always been economically worth it in the long run, and that information was always readily available, so why is it everyone else’s problem and cross to bear when one more plumber decides he actually can’t do this job until he’s in his mid sixties? We should just let people die for making poor choices.
OR
We live in a society that requires a variety of skill sets and knowledge bases, including the trades, retail, food service, the sciences, the humanities, medicine, and plenty of other fields that require postsecondary study. We should remove all financial barriers to education, and we should eliminate student debt, because it serves no purpose other than lining the pockets of large financial institutions. And generally speaking, you know, we should take care of glaring issues we see in our society, like a plumber who can’t work for medical reasons or a Ph.D who can’t effectively contribute to society because he’s crushed by student debt. And we should do all of those things with public assistance programs.
Also, “should have read the fine print” is a dead giveaway for being on the unethical side of an argument.
Probably them choosing to do the thing. Someone doing a PhD might be hoping to land a good job later on and be able to through that pay off the debt. Or they want to pursue their passion, even if it means debt. It’s a decision to go for those. Could’ve gone to trade school.
Their brother is a grown-ass man and should be helping himself.
He should pull himself up by the bootstraps to proove his manly manliness?
I love how we all agree on the general problem of capitalism but God forbid we apply it in our daily life.
Decisions have consequences. Brother 1 chose to be 140K in debt. Brother 2 didn’t. It’s not Brother 2’s problem to solve.
I’d still help you out if you were in a car crash, even though it was your decision to drive a vehicle.
Though of course, this doesn’t mean helping out is mandatory.
Nah, they decided to buy a more affordable car with only a 3-star crash rating because they decided to get stressed about their only financing option being complete dogshit because of a wrecked economy, because they decided to have a job that required going into the office.
Sure, but nobody would choose to be in a car crash.
Bro chose to go into debt. Big difference.
If that’s how you see our familiar relations sure, you’re your own individual. But boy I’d hate to be your family member.
“I chose [X] of my own free will. Now I’m unhappy with that choice. Fix it for me.” No.
“Events outside my control have made things hard. Help?” Yes.
See the fucking difference?
The difference is not my point at all.
If my brother, at a very young age, had made the reasonable decision of pursuing higher education as a path in life, and due to a wide variety of circumstances is in financial trouble and I could help…
Guess what, I’m helping. I do not give a fuck if there’s a difference, my guy. And I also know my brother would stop in the middle of a career defining work meeting and come rescue me if I was in trouble.
And I wouldn’t trade that kind of relationship for your world view.
Nah, no one would choose to be in debt.
Bro chose to get an education. Big difference.
He chose to get an education he couldn’t afford, so he took out loans. Now he is in debt.
Either he did this with his eyes open, in which case it’s his problem to solve,
OR
He did this WITHOUT knowing the consequences, in which case he should have fucking read the fine print and it’s his problem to solve.
I agree the cost of education is out of control, but nobody forced him to do it. He chose to. Now he can deal with it.
So when a tradesman’s back finally gives out and he gets fired for not showing up to work, he should not be eligible for unemployment, medicaid, medicare, food stamps, housing assistance, subsidized health insurance, or any other publicly funded assistance. That’s his problem to solve.
After all, the data has always shown that this is the sacrifice you make by not going to college. Degrees have always been economically worth it in the long run, and that information was always readily available, so why is it everyone else’s problem and cross to bear when one more plumber decides he actually can’t do this job until he’s in his mid sixties? We should just let people die for making poor choices.
OR
We live in a society that requires a variety of skill sets and knowledge bases, including the trades, retail, food service, the sciences, the humanities, medicine, and plenty of other fields that require postsecondary study. We should remove all financial barriers to education, and we should eliminate student debt, because it serves no purpose other than lining the pockets of large financial institutions. And generally speaking, you know, we should take care of glaring issues we see in our society, like a plumber who can’t work for medical reasons or a Ph.D who can’t effectively contribute to society because he’s crushed by student debt. And we should do all of those things with public assistance programs.
Also, “should have read the fine print” is a dead giveaway for being on the unethical side of an argument.
What makes something somebody’s problem to solve, exacly?
Probably them choosing to do the thing. Someone doing a PhD might be hoping to land a good job later on and be able to through that pay off the debt. Or they want to pursue their passion, even if it means debt. It’s a decision to go for those. Could’ve gone to trade school.