Lol I’m plenty aware Ukraine is Nazi infested, but the downvote stays.

This is a meme comm, not necessarily a political debate comm. The meme isn’t really that high of quality.

200% true, if he dies in office he becomes immortal

soviets often try to steal all the achievements of the country

Thing is that the workers in those countries were Soviet as well. Credit goes to the labor regardless of nationality. The softening of national divisions was a great achievement of both the USSR and Yugoslavian socialist governments. It has been disastrous that those institutions weren’t able to prevail until the current day (they should have evolved instead of been abolished, but I don’t know enough to comment much further).

I don’t agree with the depiction of the USSR as an outside force that developed these countries “for them”. It was an opportunity to come together under one republic and develop.

I think the meme is attempting to disparage the “ungratefulness” of present day liberals in these FSU countries, but I think it lacks nuance to say the least.

I think the meme is low quality and needlessly provocative (no offense OP I guess), but the answer is likely complex. Once the republics are under the purview of the USSR, the resources and engineerong may well have come from elsewhere in the country, even if the construction crews were primarily local people.

I don’t know enough about Soviet construction to provide an actual answer, though.

Anarchist thought is applying criticism to hiearchy and abolishing those that fail tonl justify themselves. Unfortunately people online don’t read their theory and just say whatever they’re thinking.

For me it was that it said “forcing this upgrade may break your system, do you want to force the upgrade?”

And I was like “yeah, fuck it”, then installed mint after my system didn’t come back up (it was time for my annual re-install anyway)

You think that all of them do it out of knowledge? Remember that if they weren’t born before 1980, they’ve really only experienced the effects of capitalism on their countries. I’ve heard it happen before, that some 20-25 year old who immigrated with their parents in the mid-2000s is going off about how “communism ruined my country and that’s why we had to leave”, or something.

In 1991 the referendum to dissolve the USSR was voted against by the population (of course it happened anyway).

I don’t mean to suggest that the political or economic systems implemented under communist governments were perfect, or even that great, but in the English-speaking world there is a tendency to assume that everyone (or even a majority of people) who lived there were against their own government, when it’s much more complex than that.

A modern example I noticed recently was in this video, where the people living in the warzone in Eastern Ukraine are generally supportive of Russia, and miss the USSR (I mean, if anything, the current conflict never would have happened). Of course these two people don’t represent their whole community, but it’s more complex than is commonly portrayed (all I’m trying to say).

Watch from around 3:15 till about 20 minutes in when the old guy in the shirt is done talking (or just watch the whole thing idc): https://youtu.be/drhgjxSJG6M?t=197

Everyone else just lived in pretty poor, if stable, conditions.

That’s the thing, they lived in a poor country. Not strictly because of their political system (as many flaws as it had), but because of global economics, and trade hostility from the USA that intentionally hampered growth. It’s not like they were purposely kept poor for funsies or cause the government were big meanies (sure, they were meanies in other ways). The wealth inequality between modern political leaders and funding sources (where the real power comes from) and the average citizen (particularly in the USA) is far greater than it ever was in the USSR.

Things are better for some and worse for many since then in Russia, but in other places like Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldova everyone lost except for the rich guys who pillaged all the private infrastructure.

People might not like it, but you can watch a couple of people who are living in Eastern Ukraine (yes, the literal warzone) in this video talk about how shit was better until 1991. Cause, you know, they wouldn’t be living in a warzone for one thing. Watch from 03:15 till about 20 minutes in, if you’d like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drhgjxSJG6M

I see, I knew that person had a huge bone to pick with the Lemmy devs over their personal politics (nearly irrelevant on a federated platform imo), so I didn’t know if it was along the same lines.

Is that the same person who runs the FediTips Mastodon?

Fuck Google

It was a mistake (though natural) to trust Reddit with all that knowledge in the first place.

So some people really not grasp that?

Actually, yes, the original FOSS movement had more right-libertarian roots than anything to the left, although nowadays some might see it as “common ground”.

This then also makes me wonder how these models are going to be trained in the future. What happens when for example half of the training data is the output from previous models? How do you possibly steer/align future models and prevent compounding errors and bias? Strange times ahead.

Between this and the “deep fake” tech I’m kinda hoping for a light Butlerian jihad that gets everyone to log tf off and exist in the real world, but that’s kind of a hot take

I think what sites have been running into is that it’s difficult to tell what is and is not AI-generated, so enforcement of a ban is difficult. Some would say that it’s better to have an AI-generated response out there in the open, which can then be verified and prioritized appropriately from user feedback. If there’s a human generated response that’s higher.quality, then that should win anyway, right? (Idk tbh)