This meme has real boomer Facebook vibes; well played.

If I knew what a ploncker was, I’d be very upset

I feel seen.

Bless the Maker and His water. Bless the coming and going of Him.

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It was a toy/gaming/computing place. Reminds me of “EB Games”, “Kay Bee” and “Waldenbooks” era of US Malls. It definitely existed and you know it now as Gamestop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameStop#Babbage’s_(1984–1994)

Insert Obiwan Meme: Babbage’s… now there is a name I haven’t heard in a loong time.

4GB? An embarassment of riches in today’s market!

I, for one, am triggered.

Totally get using others if something isn’t working. I’ve been known to (gasp) throw on another distro to get past a problem until a new kernel release or bug fix comes in, but it’s the rarity now. I gotta be honest that I’m surprised it was Debian which solved a corner case for your gaming table. Maybe it was a monitor issue or weird (old) hardware?

Good call on the final pass with Windows. With Steam, you really can’t miss on hardly any game these days unless it’s bloated with DRM, but who am I to speak - I have XBox that can actively spy on me for those DRMed games… Carry on.

That’s crazy talk right there. After decades of who knows how many Linux distros, SunOS/Solaris, HPUX, AIX (and a splash of FreeBSD), the proper answer is this:

• Mint
• Already correct! >Mint
• Mint
• Mint - hardened if external
• I’ll allow it

Non-Linux

• por que!? OOF… this should be Mint or really any Linux is better
• I’ll allow it, though I find OMV to be better for various reasons

Not gatekeeping - just having a bit of fun. You do you, but I found it crazy supporting so many distros after all these years. At some point you go for “works great out of the box with minimal tinkering” that covers like 99% of use cases and frees up your time. That being said I’m sure I have a system or two around here still running Ubuntu or Debian or whatever that I just can’t be arsed to change.

OK and no worries - try not to let your frustration turn into hostility with likely allies and potential converts. BTW, I realize that I do the same when I’m ultra passionate about something and think I’m 100% right so I am aware and struggle at times to retain positivity. It’s like a full time job! LOL

I still disagree about the relevancy as clearly outlined in our chat, but I absolutely recognize your perspective (you’re largely correct) and the need to push into mobile being paramount. I hope my points about leveraging desktop, gaming, and QoL improvement wins we already have are able to temper your frustration by influencing from another view. I think we largely want the same things here - I guess I’m just cautioning that we should use every lever we have to build FOSS’s future even if the “now” is already mobile. Certainly when someone reaches out to this fine community asking a “why” question, giving us all an opportunity to be welcoming and educating. All the best, lemmy friend.

I don’t understand the hostility, nor the downvotes to my original point. You’re going sideways a bit trying to deliver your message to a captive and mostly agreable audience where I was attempting to answer OP’s question asking for insider information about why all the servers and supercomputers run Linux and pivot into adoption and advocation for Linxu in general.

I agree that we need to embrace FOSS on mobile. I’d LOVE to have a viable Linux-distro phone that actuall works. I spend money and effort in this space, already. The vast majority of the world gets connecitivity via mobile devices. I know that and probably most in this community do too. My original point (heavily downvoted in a linux sub of all things) is that Linux IS READY and can WIN the desktop. That’s it… that’s all. Yet it seems you’ve taken umbrage that I didn’t agree with you 100%. In fact, we could really just consider linux on mobile as a smaller desktop with more input constraints and a smaller screen + need to utilize mobile radios properly (this is typically the hard part to open source). And I agreed with most of your statement, correcting on one point that implied Linux was only suitable for Servers. Which is a bit ironic because to win mobile it HAS to win on the desktop. Steam and stable / high UX distros have made this actually viable in the last 2-3 years where Windows users can migrate with the lightest of disruption and capability yet get all the resiliency, security and privacy.

You’re not winning anyone over with the attitude. I don’t get the edgelord response like I personally affronted you for having a nuanced interpretation. Geninuinely asking - what makes you think attacking me with your italicized ad hominim is working, especially when it’s the hottest of takes? Are you getting out your anger on someone? Makes you feel like you’re “winning” a comment thread on a tiny internet forum? Who hurt you, man! :-) In all seriousness, in the real world, we’d likely be chattering on about this over a beer, so I truly don’t get it.

Happy to continue the conversation, in the hope we can find common ground. Not everyone’s an idiot because they don’t agree with you 100% or see things from another angle. In fact, I’d like to discuss this:

Outside of offices, computing now means Android and almost nothing else If you’re going strictly by number of mobile devices I buy it. If you’re going by actual dollars spent, arguably the most important metric for investors, I’m going to say the disparity is narrowed by gamers alone, even if mobile wins by sheer volume x cheap devices. Mobile currently drives investment by selling personal data and microtransaction games mostly, so there’s anti-incentive to even ALLOW linux-based mobile devices on networks outside of Wi-Fi. So I see mobile as a near term hope and goal and desktop / gaming as an already winning, which just needs people to spread the good word. Plus people who run Linux on their laptops are much much more likely to consider it on their phone if it “just works” and covers 95% of their use cases and comes bundled with not selling or leaking their personal data for the same price.

Mobile is not all that counts. I don’t know anyone without at least one laptop or desktop in the house (typically more) and gamers alone contribute more billions of $$ to entertainment than sports and movies combined. There’s hundreds of millions of normal people who are still using MicroSlop Windows which has turned into a surveilance nightmare almost as bad as mobile platforms simply because it’s the lowest effort/barrier to entry (pre-installed).

I absolutely want to concentrate energy on FOSS on mobile - with you there, but Steam Proton has made gaming so simple on Linux and the last 10 years of quality of life OS/Kernel improvements means FOSS can already compete on “desktop” and win. I"m saying don’t dismiss it because if you can prove to people they can have a bulletproof and seemless experience for FREE without having to pay subscriptions and get privacy in the deal, they are more apt to consider a Linux phone (assuming it works).

P.S. I should also mention that most everything we improve or build for desktop Linux can be used on mobile (within mobile plat limitations). Win hearts and minds where you can - Linux isn’t just for servers.

I’m going to contest you on one point. Linux is well suited as a server OS for all kinds of reasons, true, but it is absolutely just as well suited as a desktop OS. Even for (maybe especially for?) the masses. I consider any thinking otherwise as dated at this point. Arguably only MacOS is slightly better and it’s essentially a 'nix derivative with it’s own quirks.

Best Match… for Microsoft’s pockets.

Sigh… Peels back the leaves… Start’s shuckin’

looks like someone is trying to find the poophole loophole for jerkin’ it

Edit: NSFW if that wasn’t obvious.

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