I’m hype for the steam frame. I want an index upgrade so bad.
I never even bought a VR set yet, I’ve been waiting for an index upgrade forever to finally get into VR.
I just hope the price is low enough that it isn’t an absurd purchase, but too high for most scalper assholes.
Same. I sold mine nearly a year ago in anticipation. Can’t wait to spend a dumb amount of money on a new toy.
Where would you say the Index has fallen behind, and what about the Frame is better? Isn’t the lack of room tracking a big drawback of the Frame vs the Index?
For me, wireless is the big selling point. As far as I know room scale tracking is still a thing. In the hands on video from tested.com you can see the host walking around, with the play area displayed at a fixed spot
This basically top of the line VR now: https://store.bigscreenvr.com/products/bigscreen-beyond-2
The Index has fallen behind a lot and a new model would have been amazing.
Upgraded to the beyond 2e from my reverb G2 and I absolutely love it! Had to go through a couple different face plates since my eyelashes were touching the lenses, but their support was really good about getting a replacement/new face scan.
Imo the weakest area is the audio strap, especially coming from the G2 which has identical speakers to the index, but in the future I’ll probably look into the project beyondex strap to get the index speakers working with it
I want the wireless phovated streaming. I’m hoping I can use it in my backyard to have a huge play space. I also like the idea of using it as a linux “spatial computer”. IDK how well that’s going to work. I might still use my index for seated VR stuff where any drift would be noticeable.
This is more of a side-grade. I was hoping for an actual Index 2.
I’m glad it isn’t Index 2. The frame seems way more accessible.
Yeah, dont get me wrong, its nice to see another device in the inside-out space (to avoid fucking Meta), but I think its going to be too expensive to compete with Meta on the main stage.
But I would also have liked to see a takeover of the high end again, to see Valve push the limits.
I hope you’re underestimating the number of people who want vr but refuse to buy a quest because of meta.
I guess valve will decide what comes next when they have an idea for how the frame does. At least the hype makes it sound like it could sell well.
Yea, I see why they have done it, its a good move! But I still want an insane high end headset :D
Depends on what’s important to you I guess. My Index is collecting dust, mostly because it’s heavy and fiddling with the cables always killed immersion for me.
Yea, its a good alternative, albeit more expensive, to Meta’s Quest devices. I’ll pick one up, but I do want to see Valve target the high-end again and push the VR space like they did with the Index.
As long as they do that with a wireless version, I will splurge on that as well, I am sure :D
I thought that is what it was going to be, both tracking options in a next-level headset!
I’m mostly stoked about this new ARM support. Gaming hardware is going to see a big shift I suspect
And the next shift will be when they use ARM for the Steam Deck 2 once FEX has a lot of games/quirks worked out
I dont think there are any arm socs that are faster than the current steam deck
The M2 is like twice the performance
Apple really does have a crazy hardware division. I wish their software was anywhere near as appealing. They could do a good job of kicking Qualcomm into actually making something useful if they chose to license their M series chips
Their experience with Mac clones in the 1990s guarantees that will never happen.
Yeah thats fair.
I would probably bet that the next steam deck will be made by AMD or Intel unless something major changes in 2028. The new Intel CPUs are super power efficient, and the AMD CPUs later this year are planned to be similar.
I really want a Linux DE that can take advantage of this. Virtual desktops and multiple monitors are nice but this is potentially so much better.
I mean its gonna ship with KDE so lets see what it ends up looking like
I think I’m gonna buy this second hand this time.
I’ve always bought valve HW new and even preordered most of them, but in the current financial climate, I think I’m gonna wait a bit.
I do have a wifi7 access point already wired with this in mind, though.
Doesn’t it come with its own WiFi access point dongle thingy?
The dongle itself is WiFi 6. You need a WiFi 7 AP to use it without the dongle.
It does.
I never was very hyped about VR, but the Steam Deck has liberated me from my office chair, and I suspect the frame will be an extension of this freedom for me. As soon as I can pre-order one, I will. I’ve been saving my money for this thing since the first announcement.
Do we have any idea how much the whole kit will set us back?
Machine+frame+controller
I’m just excited for Lepton which will hopefully demonstrate the stupidity of kernel level anticheat when it will allow Linux users to play Fortnite for a couple of hours before Epic inevitably starts monkeypatching their android port lol.
I’m dying to get back into VR, have around 150 VR games i’d like to get back into with controllers that aren’t drift prone.
I can’t wait to box or duel people in VR. I hope VR devs are encouraged to make VR games 🤞
Sold both of my oculus headsets a few months ago. Looking forward to this
Looking forward to dumping my annoying Quest 3 for the Frame!
Looking forward for it, both because the ARM support, since I no longer play on the Deck but on my Android tablet via Game Native, and, if not too expensive or scalpel, for the headset itself. I’m interested both in VR and in using it as Far for regular controller games on the couch.












