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    8 months ago

    “We need you to stop making a good product so your customers can finally move away from it.”

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      “We need you to stop making a good product forcing your customers to only use your version so your customers can finally move away from it.” Fixed it. Non-apple watches, for instance, can’t use GPS from an iPhone or cause it to emit sound to local lost phones, despite being previously able to, demonstrating no technical limitations just a walled-garden limitation

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              Not really, pretty much every brand has had security issues and they all patch them fairly quickly

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                Thats not true. There are still phones out there being actively used that have been end of life for years now. There is no way to corral those insecure devices.

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                  8 months ago

                  I’d have to review exactly how long each brand releases updates for, especially because they’ve all been one upping each other recently. However there’s nothing specific to Apple’s anticompetitive behavior that relates to how long they release updates for.

                  Ideally they’d all provide support for longer

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                    The lack of updates to old devices might be exactly why apple doesn’t want to be compatible with them. It’s a HUGE attack surface. They can’t babysit every device’s downfall.

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          Is there an answer to that question that would make these practices reasonable? (while also being plausibly true)

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              In what way is a device you’ve purchase and paired with your phone, requesting that the phone it’s paired to make a noise; a security flaw/issue?

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                  Are you high?

                  Tracking?

                  Explain to me how you would perform any sort of tracking via a secured communication between two devices: ‘hey phone, can you beep once’ ‘sure’ beep.

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                    Sure. An ex-boyfriend doesn’t take the breakup from his girlfriend well, and decides to locate her. He remembers his phone used to be paired with hers, and decides to use that to find her.

                    As much as you want to fight me and make fun of me for this, this is a serious concern.

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                Thats why I’m asking if they know why the feature was removed so I can look up the specifics.

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      The quality isn’t really the issue, it’s when the company

      • prevents competing apps from being installed
      • prevents devices from other manufacturers from using your apps (or intentionally degrading services on other devices)
      • making it hard to use files/media outside the proprietary apps (ex. iTunes in the past, and maybe still now)

      This issue isn’t limited to Apple, but Apple is the well known example for locking people into an ecosystem whether they like it or not

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        Do you have an example of them rejecting a quality product from being used in their phones?

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            Each developer will have to be authorized by Apple to switch engines “after meeting specific criteria and committing to a number of ongoing privacy and security mitigations,”

            Now they can babysit other browsers and make sure they’re secure too, ig. Might as well throw that responsibility on the trillion dollar company. At least the browsers will end up more secure once the apple security team audits them.

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          You were already provided with examples in this comment thread:

          Non-apple watches, for instance, can’t use GPS from an iPhone or cause it to emit sound to local lost phones, despite being previously able to, demonstrating no technical limitations just a walled-garden limitation

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      Just like how Windows Explorer was stopped because it was such a good product?

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        There was a lawsuit to remove Windows Explorer? Did you mean to say Internet Explorer?