• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    5 months ago

    I was excited for EVs but it looks like I’ll be driving gasoline dinosaurs for the rest of my life.

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      Yup. Fearing the same as well. All I’m asking for is a car, not a Windows computer.

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          I’m imagining cars like Framework laptops and you can install an open source OS of your own choice to operate it.

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            Aptera supports Right to Repair

            I like Aptera and have a couple of them pre-ordered but that’s nothing but a promise. They have plans to IPO. Zero chance their consumer-friendly approach survives that for very long.

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              Only slightly higher chance that they actually get to market too… Fingers crossed for 2025.

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                They promised first deliveries before the end of 2022. The only thing they showed up with was a new prototype. There was no explanation given. No acknowledgement. They since pushed the delivery dates back 3 more times, each with no acknowledgement or explanation. Now they say late 2025. I am not hopeful.

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            I wonder WHEN that “right” has been TAKEN?

            Lets wake up for fuck sake and push back!

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        Right, like if I want a tablet in my car I will just get a dash mount arm and throw whatever current gen tablet on it. I don’t need it as a part of the car.

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      Someone is bound to start selling conversion kits for regular cars eventually - turn your 20 year old gas dinosaur into a zippy EV or hybrid, no spyware required. We can already do it with two-wheelers, and Edison Motors is well on their way to making kits to turn big trucks into hybrids.

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        I tried this more than 15 years ago…

        Besides money, batteries and a lot of effort you know why it did not work?

        AUTHORITIES they would not “license” a converted car from gas to electric.

        and YES the SAME AUTHORITIES that are saying now and pretend to care about environment and push all these EVs and Hybrids to “Save our Planet”

        Fucking hypocrites!

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      That’s a good thing, you can re-fuel it without having to find a dedicated charging spot and compared to EVs they are far more repairable.

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        People are aguing about the reparability thing a lot. Current electric cars are less reparable, but that is by design. Car manufacturers are using electric as an excuse to make cars harder to repair. The reality is that electric motors and batteries are dead simple, they just add a bunch of techno bullshit to make them worse. Charging is bad right now, but that will improve with time, just like gas did when gas cars were new. I like cars, and hate seeing them being turned into what they are today, but there is nothing fundamentally different about electric cars to make them the piles of absolute garbage they are, (apart from battery technology not being great right now). 90% of the problems with electric cars are there by design, and I think everyone should buy a car that isn’t designed to suck, whether it’s gas, electric, steam, or fart powered.

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        you can re-fuel it without having to find a dedicated charging spot

        Really? Does it rain gas from the sky in your area?

        compared to EVs they are far more repairable.

        No they’re not.

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          Yes you can re-fuel it, ever heard of a gas can? While you’re waiting for your EV to charge on the side of the road I’m already off driving. I should have specified old dumb cars are more repairable.

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            Yes you can re-fuel it, ever heard of a gas can?

            So people just leave full gas cans all over the place in your area?

            While you’re waiting for your EV to charge on the side of the road I’m already off driving.

            An EV charges nearly as quickly as you can fill up yours with gas…

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              As an owner of a plug-in hybrid this is patently incorrect. Most electric car owners have at most of 240 volt outlet (in the US), which while can fill your battery in a few hours from home, still falls short of the half hour round trip to gas station and back. Maybe with time our infrastructure and technology will get to that point though.

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          Exactly right, they are all extremely complex mechanically and electronically. Engine and transmission technology have come a long way, and I guess the absurd complexity is the trade-off we got for the improvements

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            The complexity does no necessity locking diagnostic code away from consumers or small shops. The complexity does not necessity creating increasingly granular parts that don’t work between close models. The “improvements” are often just marketing hype or incremental nonsense. The infotainment centers on cars are a great example.

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              Right, those are the bullshit complexities that we don’t need. I’m glad to have the beneficial ones like direct injection, advanced turbos, and variable valve timing (etc)

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        Hurr, my 1000 piece gas engine transmission are easier to fix than an electric motor with literally 2 bearings!

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          Interesting video, never knew about custom operating systems/firmware for EVs. Still an old dumb car is what I will use for the time being.