Woke up to my computer being updated to W11 from W10, not too happy about that. I want to use massgrave to change my window to W10 LTSC.
I am not interested in Linux.
So, I went to massgrave.dev and did the script, hit 1, etc. It just say something about permanent changed to key or whatever.
So I went download W10 LTSC iso, hit setup.exe and it asked me for product key. I entered my key, say it’s not right one.
So could somebody run me step by step how to go about it? I’m not really tech savvy. I want literal step by step, telling me exactly what to do.
Thank you.
Edit: folks didn’t really provide step by step here. But I managed to do it. I activiated script via powershell and hit change edition, changed it to LTSC. And then I downloaded window 10 consumer version from massgrave and run setup.exe and done. You might have to do first step shown in first part of massgrave.dev.
So my pc went from w10 to w11 (woyhouy my approval) to w11 LTSC, to w10 IoT enterprise. I’m good now.
I am not interested in Linux.
Pretty much, everyone praise Linux here. I tried few favors of Linux, could never get into it. They say you have total control over it and yet I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands and stuff like that. Looking for hidden files and all. I just gave up. Windows is just too convenient for me.
I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands
Lmao are you serious? Did you struggle with it not opening the right applications unless you click the right icons as well?
Yep I’m serious.
Yeah Lemmy is very Linux oriented :). Though I do agree Linux is harder to get into but that’s not because GNU/Linux is difficult, it’s because we were so much accustomed to how Windows work !
I don’t really remember because it has been ages, but I’m sure my first steps with Windows 98 where awful and not easy and intuitive at all !
Linux has a lot of issues so does Windows (and MacOS) and learning a whole new paradigm of a working system takes time and some investement, but after you get the basic gists, Linux gives you total control of everything ! (Like to see hidden directories is like Windows, just a check box to show hidden files :) don’t need a CLI for that)
You rarely need the use of the Terminal when on easier distributions like PopOS or Ubuntu (while I wouldn’t suggest the later), However if you tried more difficult distribution first (like arch and derivatives), CLI is mandatory !
Not saying YOU should switch, do whatever makes you happy, more productive and vibes with your current needs/feeling…
However, If you feel the need to switch the Linux community will always welcome you :) Keep in mind, there are good people and a**holes everywhere !
Glad you solved your issue with massgrave, which is a great tool :) ! Have fun with your system !
Edit: Sorry for the off topic XD discussion got a bit heated up haha ! I’m kinda surprised it didn’t got deleted !
lsto list files
ls -ato list all files (including hidden)
ls -lto list files with their attributes
ls -lato list all files with their attributesYou can add a path after the command and parameters if you want to look in a folder you’re not in.
Don’t hate the OS for a skill issue, learn the basics, it’s way more efficient and you can even bring some of it back to Windows in PowerShell.
Linux is way easier to use once you break up with Windows. Hell, you can pretty much bump around in just the desktop environment if you really wanted - especially in something like Ubuntu where there are GUI applications for like everything.
I’m sorry but it’s still complicated for me. Learn basic? I just want to click, right click and stuff just happen. Terminals sucks for folks like me. I’m gonna hate it all I want.
Throw Linux Mint on a VM and give it a swing.
That’s ok, I’m not sure why people here wants you to learn terminal commands, Linux have also easy distributions like LinuxMint meant for you.
They say you have total control over it
You do.
yet I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands
I mean, would you prefer the terminal simply guess at what you’re trying to do and execute random commands?
Looking for hidden files and all.
[xanza@dev ~]$ ll total 76 drwxr-sr-x 11 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 15 02:05 ./ drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Mar 10 22:16 ../ -rw------- 1 xanza xanza 8677 Mar 15 02:05 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 887 Mar 13 19:26 .bashrc drwxr-sr-x 5 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 12 22:37 .cache/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 484 Mar 15 01:38 .caddy drwxr-sr-x 9 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 12 22:32 .config/ drwx--S--- 3 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 11 21:23 .docker/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 52 Mar 10 23:13 .gitconfig drwxr-sr-x 3 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 23:05 .go/ drwxr-sr-x 6 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 12 18:47 .local/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 49 Mar 10 23:41 .profile drwxr-sr-x 2 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 22:38 .sockets/ drwxr-sr-x 2 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 22:27 .ssh/ drwxr-sr-x 3 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 15 01:20 .vim/ drwxr-sr-x 4 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 23:08 go/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 267 Mar 12 18:31 justfileHidden files in *nix are dotfiles; files which are literally hidden from view because they’re appended with a
..Too complicated for me.
That’s an exceedingly poor attitude. How do you expect to learn anything in life, let alone something you seem to want to learn with that attitude?
I don’t expect to learn Linux.
ll is an alias of
ls -lanot all distros will knowllby default unless you add it to your aliases.I was demonstrating the ease of showing hidden files, not proselytizing that
llis in every distro… Not sure what you’re trying to accomplish with this post.Not sure what you’re trying to accomplish with this post.
Probably trying to stop OP from typing
llin a distro where it doesn’t exist and getting even more entrenched in their belief that Linux is hard.Again, you’re completely missing the point here. Focusing on the wrong thing. Goose for the gander.
The gracefulness of how the point flew right over your head was breathtaking
I’m pretty sure your supposed to set up W10 first (press “I don’t have a product key”) and then run the script after it puts you in
You have to install Windows LTSC fresh then run massgrave. Product keys for the versions of Windows are different
You can’t really downgrade Windows.
If you’ve downloaded Windows 10 LTSC from massgrave, then you need to burn it to a CD (lol) or put it on a USB drive and completely re-install Windows.
Then when you’ve setup windows, execute the massgrave script to activate windows permanently. Then, while you’re at it, you can grab Privatezilla which allows you to completely disable forced windows updates so this won’t happen to you again.
https://rentry.co/MR-EverythingWindowsExplained#installing-windows has further info, but tl;dr- install without a key, then use MASgrave after it’s installed.
You need to wipe your drive and reinstall windows in order to switch to the ltsc branch.
This said, are you aware that windows 10 dies in October and any security issues (~50 discovered every month, although not all very serious) won’t get patched anymore?
Better get used now to w11 or Linux rather than next year after automatically getting a ransomware and losing all your data after visiting a dodgy site
I thought LTSC have 10 years support?
LTSC IOT does
Just FYI. Microsoft Windows IoT is Microsoft Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing. Saying “IOT does” as if they’re not the same thing is incorrect.
There’s LTSC and LTSC IOT. And they’re both Enterprise. The difference is 5 years support and 10 years support.
Only if you install w10 1809 that was released in 2018. It is ancient and missing so many features that’s almost using another operating system. But at least will get security updates until 2028
Otherwise they altered the deal, latest ltsc was released in 2021 with only 5 years of security updates
On the Enterprise channel, it does. Until 2032, IIRC. So you’ll need either Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, or Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.
2032 is only for iot version that’s designed for ATM and similar appliances, missing too many features to be considered a good alternative
- IoT was not designed at all for ATMs. Windows IoT, also known as Windows embedded was designed for low power, embedded systems which in exactly zero ways describes ATMs. The banking industry has decided to use this version of Windows because it comes with the features they need with the longest support channel. That’s it. IoT was not designed for ATMs.
- Windows IoT is Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing:
Windows IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows Enterprise that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. 1
Windows Enterprise (including Windows IoT) LTSC ends mainstream support Jan 12, 2027, and security updates will continue until 2032.
I’ve read somewhere that Microsoft will be charging for extended windows 10 support. And I’ve also read that somebody is planning a project to be able to download the windows 10 extended support patches without Microsoft. Can’t remember where I read it
Remember when Microsoft said Win10 would be the last windows? That would have been cool.
Yeah it would have. Microsoft sucks 😆
