• macniel@feddit.org
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      Well yeah I know how the defaults look like, really didn’t need that reminder?

      So what’s wrong with plasma6? (Compare it with win10)

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        Windows 10 wasn’t even on my list as it is not a modern OS any more (it has been replaced by Windows 11), but even so it had a better UI, without those weird UI features that just serve to look bad

        • floating taskbar at the bottom, not actually at the bottom, above it
        • those blue highlights around widgets that do not look good
        • that horrible off white colour for widgets
        • general bad design

        And of course windows 11 and GNOME improve with even more UI features

        • blur
        • transparency that actually looks good
        • rounded corners that look good

        Basically, it’s not one specific thing that makes KDE look bad, but rather their general approach to design, which seems to be ‘we don’t care what we’re doing, we’ll just set the default to something random as we expect users to customise it anyway’ which is fine for advanced users, but not so friendly to new users

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        It might be GNOME or it might be Windows 11 (although of the Linux ones it’s still GNOME), but KDE is clearly (subjectively) the most ‘programmer art’ of the 3

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          Subjectively, I think, KDE/Plasma would make me unproductive compared to Gnome, maybe not as much as being on Win11 for sure. Both are cluttered and distracting from my point of view.

          I am looking forward to niri, because I realized that GTK is the real king that makes Gnome so awesome to use. Niri would make window management even better. (:

          A word on new Linux users: I have seen most prefering Gnome, older people tend to prefer the Gnome classic, because they are used to the idea to see which programs are currently running (taskbar). And this makes it easier for me to help them, because it still behaves like a modern desktop.

          The KDE/Plasma/XFCE/Cinamon users around me are all long time Linux users. They made a dicision for themselves and know how to use it.

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            I absolutely love GNOME but had to switch recently due to hardware and software quirks. My primary computer is a Steam Deck and with valve primarily testing their things with KDE and the ability to launch into the Deck mode there was a lot of bugs and quirks happening with GNOME that I got tired of troubleshooting and patch in config files for all the time.

            Switching back to KDE, sure I get a better overview of things but I love Adwaita and the GNOME Intuitivity of the UI. Things I needed was there and presented in a very nice non-distracting way. The clean look and the added margins around elements giving a comfortable view of what’s necessary is extremely nice to me, all while the rest of the stuff isn’t distracting me with buttons and gizmos everywhere. I hope I can one day switch back but the added niceties of HDR and better KDE Connect support that isn’t half broken is also quite nice. Loose a little, win a little.