Sometimes I just wanna play games at home, not fight for several hours just to get NVVM compilation failed :( It’s really cool that so much is working for people on Linux these days, but it doesn’t seem to be working for people like me stuck with a Nvidia card
There are applications that still don’t have a proper Linux port, or any at all. Or maybe the ones that exist are cumbersome to use. I really hate that people downvote you for pointing this out. If you were wrong, Linux would have a much larger share already.
I understand that some people have alternatives for everything they use; I’m happy for them, and I wish to be them. But assuming that if I can do everything I want on Linux in the same quality/convenience/whatever, then others must, as well…
Yeah it’s pretty frustrating to hear so many touting it as a replacement and then being met with hostility when you try to adopt it yourself and run into problems. Like I expect there to be some friction moving to a different system but when you’re hitting roadblocks every step of the way on what to you are everyday tasks in Windows it gets tiresome quick and I haven’t even tried to game on it yet.
As long as it’s single player or you’re lucky to not want to play League, PUBG, CS2 or Valorant (or RS6 or… basically any of the biggest ones), you should be fine, and there are plenty of games working under Linux.
If you do… Well, not now or in the past 20 years.
I remember having played it on Ubuntu around S3-S4. It didn’t look the exact same, but it was definitely playable (could have been just different graphics settings). A few weeks ago I found a comment saying it’s not playable and/or buggy as hell now. I wonder what broke it.
No, It’s not like there’s an abundance of options for this around. Especially if you want something with a graphics card and you want to lay hands on it first to make sure the construction isn’t shoddy. I just did a brief search for laptops with Linux on them and options were extremely limited. This is an unreasonable expectation to have as things stand.
Or is AutoCAD one of your everyday tasks?
Not every day but often. I’ve tried FreeCAD but it runs like ass on every system I’ve tried it on, and by ass I mean so slow it’s completely unusuable. I finished the entire design I was wanting to do in Fusion360 in the time it took to get a single rectangle sketched in FreeCAD last time I tried it.
We all have different definitions of “everyday”, but I haven’t had an issue web browsing on Linux in ages.
If web browsing is your only need then you can do that on a toaster. It’s not a good metric to suggest switching to Linux for most of the people looking to get off Windows. Another example of a recent problem I had was I couldn’t open pdfs off my network storage because the application didn’t understand the SMB in the path. Then there’s the fact that my secure boot enrollment randomly disappeared which somehow prevented it from booting regardless of if secureboot was on or not and I had to start from scratch with a new install just to get going again.
No, It’s not like there’s an abundance of options for this around.
Agreed. It’s getting better, but there’s a long way to go.
But putting a new OS on something is always going to be a worse experience than pre-installed.
For folks that can find and but something pre-installed that fits their use case, things are very nice, now. Considering most users who just want to surf and stream, it’s a really good percentage of folks.
AutoCad / Not every day but often
Lucky guess, I suppose - but yes - that’s a more common complaint, and still an unsolved problem. I wouldn’t consider it a typical user’s issue. I understand how that doesn’t help you.
Another example of a recent problem I had was I couldn’t open pdfs off my network storage because the application didn’t understand the SMB in the path.
I’ve had mixed-to-bad luck with SMB, both on Windows and Linux. For a counterpoint, SMB has been utter shit on Mac, for me. Buy I agree, Linux SMB support should be made better, if possible.
Then there’s the fact that my secure boot enrollment randomly disappeared which somehow prevented it from booting regardless of if secureboot was on or not and I had to start from scratch with a new install just to get going again.
At least pre-installed Linux should address this, once hardware available catches up to your needs. But again, since you need more hardware, that doesn’t help you, today.
Edit: To your point, I don’t disagree that web browsing isn’t the entirety of many people’s computer experience. It’s just funny to me how often AutoCad comes up. Maybe it’ll be a moot point someday in the next few years.
I suspect there’s a pretty big overlap between people willing to try jumping to Linux/wanting to get away from Microsoft’s bullshit and DIYers who find AutoCAD useful.
When Linux can actually do everything I want to do I’ll gladly stop using Windows. It’s not there yet and a lot of what it can do is still janky.
Sometimes I just wanna play games at home, not fight for several hours just to get NVVM compilation failed :( It’s really cool that so much is working for people on Linux these days, but it doesn’t seem to be working for people like me stuck with a Nvidia card
There are applications that still don’t have a proper Linux port, or any at all. Or maybe the ones that exist are cumbersome to use. I really hate that people downvote you for pointing this out. If you were wrong, Linux would have a much larger share already.
I understand that some people have alternatives for everything they use; I’m happy for them, and I wish to be them. But assuming that if I can do everything I want on Linux in the same quality/convenience/whatever, then others must, as well…
Yeah it’s pretty frustrating to hear so many touting it as a replacement and then being met with hostility when you try to adopt it yourself and run into problems. Like I expect there to be some friction moving to a different system but when you’re hitting roadblocks every step of the way on what to you are everyday tasks in Windows it gets tiresome quick and I haven’t even tried to game on it yet.
As long as it’s single player or you’re lucky to not want to play League, PUBG, CS2 or Valorant (or RS6 or… basically any of the biggest ones), you should be fine, and there are plenty of games working under Linux. If you do… Well, not now or in the past 20 years.
League ran fine for many years on Linux. The problem is Tencent, not Linux.
Per Riot’s own stats, the rates of scripting in competitive league went way up AFTER they rolled out Vanguard, so it’s not about anti-cheat either.
I remember having played it on Ubuntu around S3-S4. It didn’t look the exact same, but it was definitely playable (could have been just different graphics settings). A few weeks ago I found a comment saying it’s not playable and/or buggy as hell now. I wonder what broke it.
Did you buy hardware with Linux pre-installed?
We need to be better about clarifying that, for apples to apples experience, it’s best to buy hardware with Linux pre-installed.
Or is AutoCAD one of your everyday tasks? We all have different definitions of “everyday”, but I haven’t had an issue web browsing on Linux in ages.
No, It’s not like there’s an abundance of options for this around. Especially if you want something with a graphics card and you want to lay hands on it first to make sure the construction isn’t shoddy. I just did a brief search for laptops with Linux on them and options were extremely limited. This is an unreasonable expectation to have as things stand.
Not every day but often. I’ve tried FreeCAD but it runs like ass on every system I’ve tried it on, and by ass I mean so slow it’s completely unusuable. I finished the entire design I was wanting to do in Fusion360 in the time it took to get a single rectangle sketched in FreeCAD last time I tried it.
If web browsing is your only need then you can do that on a toaster. It’s not a good metric to suggest switching to Linux for most of the people looking to get off Windows. Another example of a recent problem I had was I couldn’t open pdfs off my network storage because the application didn’t understand the SMB in the path. Then there’s the fact that my secure boot enrollment randomly disappeared which somehow prevented it from booting regardless of if secureboot was on or not and I had to start from scratch with a new install just to get going again.
Agreed. It’s getting better, but there’s a long way to go.
But putting a new OS on something is always going to be a worse experience than pre-installed.
For folks that can find and but something pre-installed that fits their use case, things are very nice, now. Considering most users who just want to surf and stream, it’s a really good percentage of folks.
Lucky guess, I suppose - but yes - that’s a more common complaint, and still an unsolved problem. I wouldn’t consider it a typical user’s issue. I understand how that doesn’t help you.
I’ve had mixed-to-bad luck with SMB, both on Windows and Linux. For a counterpoint, SMB has been utter shit on Mac, for me. Buy I agree, Linux SMB support should be made better, if possible.
At least pre-installed Linux should address this, once hardware available catches up to your needs. But again, since you need more hardware, that doesn’t help you, today.
Edit: To your point, I don’t disagree that web browsing isn’t the entirety of many people’s computer experience. It’s just funny to me how often AutoCad comes up. Maybe it’ll be a moot point someday in the next few years.
I suspect there’s a pretty big overlap between people willing to try jumping to Linux/wanting to get away from Microsoft’s bullshit and DIYers who find AutoCAD useful.