Many non-US places (otherwise known as the rest of the world) have cheap wine, cheap food, and social benefits. Cigs though idk, you’d have to be insane to smoke in most developed countries because if the cancer doesn’t kill you, the prices will.
::: spoiler
Sorry to be so snarky but it’s a lot funnier to put it that way.
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at that time there was social assistance from the government that “paid” the unemployed, the amount of money given was around $69/month at that time, it existed 6 years ago but now it has been stopped. yeah, the unemployed earn $0 now if they don’t do anything but somehow they can still buy cigs or even drink
True. Bit of a tangent but one issue when you have free Healthcare the cost of smoking to individuals is lower. Genuinely it’s a problem - sometimes people don’t value their health as much as they should because of ease of access to Healthcare. I’m 1000% in favour of free Healthcare, it’s just an interesting paradox.
Public health measures focusing on increasing the cost of smoking through tax work but we don’t have the pressure to stop smoking due to the cost of Healthcare itself which can make it harder to get people to understand the effects. Meanwhile public organisations understand the cost of smoking and invest in trying to reduce it as it puts huge pressure on Healthcare systems. Not just cancer but it’s a major driver of cardiovascular disease (heart attacks, peripheral vascular disease) and lung diseases (emphysema / COPD). The costs of smoking related diseases is staggering.
Smoking is in decline across the west but we’ve known since the 1940s and 1950s definitely that smoking is bad yet smoking rates have been persistently high in Europe until more recently - last 20 years or so.
Smoking rates in France for example - 23% still smoke but there has been a huge decline in the last 20 years. Yet smoking was banned on public transport in the 1970s. To be clear I’m not saying it’s because of free Healthcare - just that in countries with good Healthcare systems there is more going on. People have known for 80 years smoking is bad and there has been a gradual decline but big shifts have happened surprisingly recently.
Edit: maybe this is a bit ott comment for a meme lol
Obesity probably fits this same issue. Having tax paid healthcare makes it a government issue to keep everybody healthy, though. So maybe it would encourage the government to make rules around encouraging healthy behavior.
Many non-US places (otherwise known as the rest of the world) have cheap wine, cheap food, and social benefits. Cigs though idk, you’d have to be insane to smoke in most developed countries because if the cancer doesn’t kill you, the prices will.
::: spoiler Sorry to be so snarky but it’s a lot funnier to put it that way. :::
cigarettes are like $2 for a pack in my country lol
I’m literally crying right now as an American smoker 😭
Careful, you might overexert yourself.
Good burn, I respect it
Same here. Or they would be if they made 3 cigarette packs.
How much $ does an unemployed person receive per month there? Is it enough to swing an addiction like that?
at that time there was social assistance from the government that “paid” the unemployed, the amount of money given was around $69/month at that time, it existed 6 years ago but now it has been stopped. yeah, the unemployed earn $0 now if they don’t do anything but somehow they can still buy cigs or even drink
Any country with $2 cig packs gets $0 in unemployment.
True. Bit of a tangent but one issue when you have free Healthcare the cost of smoking to individuals is lower. Genuinely it’s a problem - sometimes people don’t value their health as much as they should because of ease of access to Healthcare. I’m 1000% in favour of free Healthcare, it’s just an interesting paradox.
Public health measures focusing on increasing the cost of smoking through tax work but we don’t have the pressure to stop smoking due to the cost of Healthcare itself which can make it harder to get people to understand the effects. Meanwhile public organisations understand the cost of smoking and invest in trying to reduce it as it puts huge pressure on Healthcare systems. Not just cancer but it’s a major driver of cardiovascular disease (heart attacks, peripheral vascular disease) and lung diseases (emphysema / COPD). The costs of smoking related diseases is staggering.
Smoking is in decline across the west but we’ve known since the 1940s and 1950s definitely that smoking is bad yet smoking rates have been persistently high in Europe until more recently - last 20 years or so.
Smoking rates in France for example - 23% still smoke but there has been a huge decline in the last 20 years. Yet smoking was banned on public transport in the 1970s. To be clear I’m not saying it’s because of free Healthcare - just that in countries with good Healthcare systems there is more going on. People have known for 80 years smoking is bad and there has been a gradual decline but big shifts have happened surprisingly recently.
Edit: maybe this is a bit ott comment for a meme lol
You’re acting like people make rational long term decisions. They don’t. Money cost of health issues is not a factor long term.
Obesity probably fits this same issue. Having tax paid healthcare makes it a government issue to keep everybody healthy, though. So maybe it would encourage the government to make rules around encouraging healthy behavior.
I like when a meme sparks a much deeper analysis and/or conversation. Keep on truckin’ (imo) 🙂