Yeah, no one is going to read your wall of bullshit, so I don’t know why you waste the electrons.
A stock market is a purely capitalist invention. It’s profiting off of a company profiting off of the exploitation of their customers and their employees. It can’t exist in a true socialist economy.
A stock market is the antithesis to a socialist economy.
You can cope as hard as you want, but China mixing their socialism with a smidge of capitalism, and the western world mixing their capitalism with a smidge of socialism is all about screwing the little guy.
Both China and the US are bad guys. It’s entirely possible to criticize both the US and Chinese economic systems without being hypocritical, and you should do better than to fall prey to a fascist regime because it loosely aligns with your beliefs.
The large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control of the state while capitalists are suppressed and prevented from expanding into those principal firms and industries. It’s been socialist since the CPC successfully overthrew the nationalists.
The communists overthrew the nationalists, and since then public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Democracy was expanded and is comprehensively surveyed from the bottom-up, and capitalists are kept in check by the socialist state.
What exactly do you want to read about? That’s a broad question, if you narrow it down a bit I might be able to give you a more focused answer.
What does “public ownership” mean? They’re not paying dividends to every Chinese citizen, right? I assume you mean “the state”, in which case I’m not seeing your point.
Public ownership doesn’t mean receipt of dividends, like some kind of massive cooperative. It means owned across all of society. The state handles that in socialism, yes, China is socialist.
The state is an extension of the ruling class, it isn’t an independent entity. Ownership of the state is largely determined by which aspect is principle, private ownership, public ownership, etc. In China, public, collective ownership is principle, and the communists created a socialist state after overthrowing the nationalists.
You said “the working class is in control of the state”, and I was looking for some argument to support that. I think Xi is in charge of the state, and I don’t think the working class gets much say in that.
Socialist market economies are a type of socialist economy, particularly in the primary stage. Socialism isn’t a unique mode of production determined by purity, but just like the others, by its principle aspect. What might help paint a better picture for you is looking at Cheng Enfu’s diagram of the stages of socialism:
China presently is in the primary stage, but is at this point well along to the next stage, the intermediate. These aren’t hard lines or jumps, but gradually worked through and towards.
China is by no means a socialist country.
The PRC is a mixed economy, with the planned, socialist sector dominant, and a limited/restricted private sector.
Is China State Capitalist?
Yeah, no one is going to read your wall of bullshit, so I don’t know why you waste the electrons.
A stock market is a purely capitalist invention. It’s profiting off of a company profiting off of the exploitation of their customers and their employees. It can’t exist in a true socialist economy.
A stock market is the antithesis to a socialist economy.
You can cope as hard as you want, but China mixing their socialism with a smidge of capitalism, and the western world mixing their capitalism with a smidge of socialism is all about screwing the little guy.
Both China and the US are bad guys. It’s entirely possible to criticize both the US and Chinese economic systems without being hypocritical, and you should do better than to fall prey to a fascist regime because it loosely aligns with your beliefs.
that attitude isn’t helping your argument.
You think I care about how you receive my argument? It’s like thinking I care if lemminge running off a fucking cliff.
Your entire political argument is based on whether people care about your bullshit.
Tell you what, I’ll let you suck my cock to weigh in with the fascists.
you don’t care at all, yet you just came here to angrily respond 🤔
Yeah, because I’m bored and I think trolling tankies is a net positive for society because all of you she literally tm
Tetetarded.
Go suck fascist cock elsewhere.
Maybe spend a bit of time learning what words mean before using them.
I know what words mean. China is a socialist market economy, which is not socialism.
imagine being so ignorant as to think that markets are at odds with socialism 🤣
Cope
The large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the working class is in control of the state while capitalists are suppressed and prevented from expanding into those principal firms and industries. It’s been socialist since the CPC successfully overthrew the nationalists.
I’m sorry, the working class is in control of the state? I’d love to hear something to back up such a strong statement.
The communists overthrew the nationalists, and since then public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Democracy was expanded and is comprehensively surveyed from the bottom-up, and capitalists are kept in check by the socialist state.
What exactly do you want to read about? That’s a broad question, if you narrow it down a bit I might be able to give you a more focused answer.
What does “public ownership” mean? They’re not paying dividends to every Chinese citizen, right? I assume you mean “the state”, in which case I’m not seeing your point.
Public ownership doesn’t mean receipt of dividends, like some kind of massive cooperative. It means owned across all of society. The state handles that in socialism, yes, China is socialist.
OK but you said public ownership as a part of how “the working class” is in control of the state, and this sounds like not that.
The state is an extension of the ruling class, it isn’t an independent entity. Ownership of the state is largely determined by which aspect is principle, private ownership, public ownership, etc. In China, public, collective ownership is principle, and the communists created a socialist state after overthrowing the nationalists.
I’m not seeing your point.
You said “the working class is in control of the state”, and I was looking for some argument to support that. I think Xi is in charge of the state, and I don’t think the working class gets much say in that.
China is a socialist market economy, not a socialist economy.
You can’t have a stock market and be a socialist economy.
Socialist market economies are a type of socialist economy, particularly in the primary stage. Socialism isn’t a unique mode of production determined by purity, but just like the others, by its principle aspect. What might help paint a better picture for you is looking at Cheng Enfu’s diagram of the stages of socialism:
China presently is in the primary stage, but is at this point well along to the next stage, the intermediate. These aren’t hard lines or jumps, but gradually worked through and towards.
Cope