• 🔪Criminal Unicorn🦄@feddit.uk
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    10 months ago

    Animal carcasses are not vegetarian… Things like milk, eggs and honey (honey can be questionable) would be classed as vegetarian. Essentially anything that causes an animal to die to be consumed would not be vegetarian.

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      10 months ago

      There’s no real question with honey. Honey is vegetarian, but not vegan.

      Vegetarian = does not eat animals, vegan = does not eat animal products.

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      10 months ago

      anything that causes an animal to die to be consumed would not be vegetarian.

      That would explicitly NOT include gelatin, which is made from the hooves and the like of animals already slaughtered for the parts people eat. Literally no one is slaughtering animals to make gelatin.

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        10 months ago

        It would also decidedly not include pork tenderloin, which is made from the tenderloin of animals already slaughtered

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            10 months ago

            Mate. The animal has to die for the product to get made. There’s such a thing as avoiding waste: You wouldn’t slaughter an entire horse and just use the hooves, nor would you chop a chicken for just the wings. You use as much as you can. Stuff like gelatin usually has multiple source animals precisely because it’s made of what used to be wasted. There isn’t a way to extract these things without causing serious injury or death to the animal, ergo it is very much not vegetarian.

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              10 months ago

              The animal has to die for the product to get made

              The animal has already died to make another product. There’s no additional animals killed to make gelatin.

              There’s such a thing as avoiding waste

              Exactly. Using the extra parts to make gelatin rather than just throwing them away is avoiding waste.

              You wouldn’t slaughter an entire horse and just use the hooves, nor would you chop a chicken for just the wings. You use as much as you can

              Yes, that’s what I’m saying!

              Stuff like gelatin usually has multiple source animals precisely because it’s made of what used to be wasted

              As opposed to killing any extra animals for gelatin. How the fuck can you keep disagreeing with the point you’re DESCRIBING in the affirmative??

              There isn’t a way to extract these things without causing serious injury or death to the animal

              You just described at length how no animal is killed for gelatin and as such using gelatin doesn’t involve any additional deaths versus NOT using gelatin. It’s not that difficult to understand…

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                10 months ago

                By your logic, do you consider ground meat to be vegetarian? Animals aren’t slaughtered specifically for ground meat, it’s made of the extras, off-cuts, and all the bits that typically won’t get eaten, in a very similar vein as how gelatin is made.