LTT is hidden advertising, and there is no money for that in Linux.
Most of the “tech” youtube world is based around presenting mostly useless consumer products as it was technological advancement.
Most of their SAAS advertisers could be replaced by a “docker compose up”, hardware ones, most of the time are just regular tools with one or two gimmick.
The way to get money advertising on linux is by misleading business people into getting useless enterprise services.
Entreprise services are there so client companies have someone to blame contractually if there’s an issue instead of themselves, that’s very valuable.
Plus, support is pretty nice to have.
You are off your rocker if you think most saas products can be replaced by docker 🤣
There is a big gap between you running jellyfin in your basement and securely and reliably maintaining services.
You are off your rocker if you think most saas products can be replaced by docker 🤣
So you’re telling me all those products built on top of docker are !!MILITARY GRADE!! ?
reliably maintaining services
it’s funny that you use that as a selling point.
In my experience almost no outage happens because hardware failures. And most outages happen because bad configurations and/or expired certs, which in turn are a symptom of too much complexity.
Is there 🤔? I’ve seen things in production you wouldn’t believe. Rigs from the stone age, a 30+ year old DEC still running their version of UNIX and people saving files on tapes. Why? It’s how it has always been done 🤷. A firewall/router configured back in 2001 (no one’s touched it ever since). An Ubuntu 12.4 install running a black box VM that no one knows what it’s actually for, except that it was needed back in 2012 for something related to upgrading the network… so don’t touch it cuz shit might stop working.
Trust me, I’ve seen homelabs that are far better maintained than real world production stuff. If you’re talking about the 0.2% of companies/banks that actually take care of their infrastructure, they are the expection, not the norm.
Homelabs will always be better maintained. In most cases it’s a one man show and the documentation can be slight hints that will help you remember the process when you need it.
Most of the documentation for my homelab server is a README file in the folder next to the docker compose. At work I’m forced to write a lengthy explanation as to why things are the way they are in Confluence.
SAAS is a scam developed by venture capital to make their otherwise nominally profitable tech gambits able to bilk clients of cash on a scale not even Barnum could fathom.
Hidden? What else is there to get from a tech illiterate channel?
Even his build guides are awful
Hidden? It’s pretty fucking opaque. The point of most videos is to explicitly talk about whatever item(s) is about (CPU, GPU, cooling device, chair, tons of accessories, etc), he mentions lttstore at least once per video, and explicitly calls out sponsors.
Which advertising is hidden?
windows don’t pay him too
Everyone else does, why does it matter if MS doesn’t 🤷.
He has stock in framework laptops so Linux should be nice for him.
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Seems unfortunate that there’s no “pre-built ready to use with Linux pre-installed” option starting at ~$1499.
Seems unfortunate that there’s no “pre-built ready to use with Linux pre-installed” option starting at ~$1499.
system76 makes great desktops
A “Ubuntu LTS” option would be great here, yeah. It’d be next to impossible to support every distro and I get the feeling linux users who have distro preferences are also the type who would prefer to do it themselves.
Source: Me I guess. I’d rather setup Fedora myself
That’s good for workplaces at least. Everywhere I’ve worked, Ubuntu LTS is the standard with everything else being “good luck, just don’t let it get in the way of work”
Those are the exact words my first boss used when on my first day, I asked if I could use linux mint instead haha. That’s pretty spot on.
For good reason too, it has waaaay more support for your basic workplace apps than anything else (not that other things don’t but it’s easier to find a .deb than a .rpm)
I missed the part where you provide sources/reasons for your allegation of crime?
I’ve blocked his channels, so I can’t give recent sources. But it was VERY clear he ignored AMD graphics for years around 2014-2018, until when they began to advertise, they suddenly got attention. Also it was very clear that when Intel stopped their program to support reviewers, he did a 180 and was suddenly VERY EXTREMELY negative on everything Intel. Coinciding with when AMD began to advertise on his channel.
Just pay attention if you use his channel, and I bet you’ll see it very quickly too.
Fuck Linus and his shitty company. Greedy cunt.
Yes, he got very greedy.
Yeah it rubs me the wrong way when he treats his workforce as his personal tech peasants by getting them to do ridiculously luxurious upgrades at his house.
Sure they get paid but he’s often getting stuff free or discounted from sponsors installed by his employees essentially for free as he gets to claim their wages as a tax discount all so his primary school aged kids can have their third $5000 gaming rig so they have a computer on every floor of the house.
Personally I would tell him to get fucked, it’s insulting to his employees.
I’m sure those videos do make significantly more money than they cost though. People are definitely clicking on them. And he also does expensive sponsored upgrades for (a few of) his employees. Of course he does do a lot more of those for himself though.
He makes fun of his employees so much tho when visiting their home. Bruh you don’t pay them enough for their homes to be 10% as nice as your own douchebag!
And the workers make just as much fun of Linus, if not even more. It’s not a one way street, and it’s clear that Linus only does it when he knows the other person will also find it funny. It’s nothing more but humorical banter between people that know each other quite well.
Even though I don’t really dabble in Linux anymore. I lost all my respect for him. No, not due to this post, but the GN/Billet Labs situation, and especially the Madison situation.
Can’t forget him being anti union as well, I also stopped watching all his content from that point onwards.
I will never watch another one of his videos, there are other options.
That and it rubbed me wrong when he went into small businesses to buy them out, only to ridicule all their product for being useless garbage.
The owner was obviously happy to be rid of the old stock. They knew it wasn’t moving. It is tech waste for a majority of the western world. Yes that stuff is still useful in other places arithe world, but it’s just not particular to have it in a shop in urban Canada. The owner was obviously a good sport to play the games the video and expressed gratitude to be able to sell a bunch of stuff.
You’ve missed some social cues or are looking for any small thing to pounce on. Go touch grass.
I’m not disagreeing with you. I saw that the owner was happy. I may have missed these queues, as I am not great at being social. I am looking at the deeper meaning. I am looking not at the actions, but what it represents, which is the fact that this teaches kids that they can buy people, and be happy in a world of commercialism is all. To me this is wrong.
It’s not that deep bro.
Can you elaborate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXBzBFxe00o
He goes into one of those dingy old PC stores that have walls crammed with dusty products that haven’t been sold in like 15-20 years and buys everything, even turns it into a bit of game with the owner where they roll a giant foam or play darts dice to see if he’s going to pay ridiculous prices for some of the products. Like many of these boxes are literally early 00’s tech that never moved and was just sitting there.
To be offended over that video is utterly ridiculous and it’s clearly all in good fun with the owner, who gets to avoid making a loss on stock he should’ve thrown out decades ago.
It may be my mode of thinking. To me it feels like a power move. The 1% tend to do things like this to flaunt their money, or to manipulate the world into showing people what this kind of power can do for them. It builds people up to aspirations that absolute wealth is a positive thing. Yet, people that are given this kind of money all the sudden, tend to spend it all and bankrupt themselves. There is also the fact that although tech is older, there is still a market for it, as capitalism tells us all we need the hip new thing, people just see it as garbage.
He’s talking about a video where Linus went to a local tech shop. The products in said shop were… very old gen, Linus made some fun about it. He bought everything that was in the front of the store. That way the store owner had money to buy stuff that’s current gen and useful. A bit of a nostalgia trip
You mean the situation where a young zoomer with no work experience claims things without any proof?
“Any more” this mofo couldnt do it even when he is getting paid to
We also know how to install Windows. Make him install openBSD
People hating on linus but I’d say he’s honestly done videos to help linux be in the light. Like it or not linux still has its pain points. More importantly if you want linux to have wide adoption then you’ll need for manufacturers to ship them on devices and have them in store.
I hate on Linus not because he doesn’t like linux, but because he is a bad boss who overworks his employees and has allegations against him.
The allegations are allegations. Its not against him personally but at some of his employees and they hired an independent investigator to investigate the issue. People had issue with perhaps certain things being crunchy and he walked that back and they’re on a more laid back schedule now.
It did not matter if I spoke to someone with evidence of an abuse of power, or inappropriate workplace behavior, it was considered tattle taling.
I was actually called a tattle tale
I was told I was bossy, when I was trying to be assertive. (like I was asked to do)
I was told I was arguing, when I was trying to discuss my point of view.
I was told to “calm my tits”, “stop being such a bitch”, and other comments to similar effects.
Sounds like he runs a great company.
I’m sorry but once again, an investigation needs to happen with evidence for those claims. If true then the people involved should face repercussions.
- As far as I know, no legal charges where made or will be made. So the only investigation will be the one he himself paid for and he doesn’t have enough credibility for my to believe him even if he said everything was false.
- What what evidence would you personally need to believe that Madison isn’t just making it up?
Should we believe people just because they claim so? Anyone who makes a claim that something happened to them or someone did X needs to provide evidence. Otherwise anyone can just say anything about anyone.
What evidence would you need to believe her? At least one other former staff member (Colin) said
@suuuoppp’s (Madison) posts today in are line with what I remember hearing back when we were colleagues, and it takes mad huevos to post that.
Other former LMG employees like Maxine at the very least liked the tweets where she claimed these things.
Linus held a staff meeting about how to handle HR related issues right after Madison quit. Even though he responded to her accusations by saying her had no idea this was going on.
And if that’s not good enough for you, again what evidence do you need to believe her?
He actually became what he hated… at least that’s what he used as an excuse for quitting his day job.
Don’t you know? He didn’t sell his soul, he auctioned it!
Worst Linus.
He actually doesn’t know how to install Linux. Or anything about it in fact. In fact, he knows frightening little about the tech he talks about.
I think revisiting Linux would be great idea, but the current state isn’t that far off from what he experienced few years ago. Wayland protocols aren’t fully there yet, NVIDIA still needs some work, portals, desktops, 3rd party software and hardware support, package formats bullshit… There’s shit load of pending changes still being discussed, progress is being made, and even then, adoption of new solutions will take a while. It only make sense to revisit when there’s huge technological leap. Realistically with how slow things are going sometimes, it may be the end of the decade or close before the landscape looks really different.
When he first started he used Pop!_OS and an issue with their packages uninstalled the DE when he tried to install steam which was a really terrible look. A bug which I believe wasn’t present in any other debian/ubuntu based distro. He then moved to Manjaro, an Arch-based distro, and just had more problems with hardware.
I wish they’d try again and just use a user-friendly distro with more momentum behind it and stability, and realistically that means Ubuntu or Mint. Or take a tour through desktop environments, package managers, and what the differences between distros actually are.
If I recall the “Linus killed Pop!_OS in minutes just trying to install Steam” fiasco, the forensics shook out something like this:
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Pop!_OS’s onboarding experience doesn’t (or didn’t at the time) walk users through a software update. At least at the time, I haven’t used Pop!_OS recently so this may have changed, but the way you would use their GUI to run the equivalent of an apt-get update was to open the Pop!_Shop to the Installed tab and…wait. So the apt cache (the local copy of the catalog of packages available in the repository) is whatever it was when the install media was created.
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It just so happened that the exact version of the steam.deb package that apt cache pointed to had an error in its dependencies–it claimed that it was incompatible with Pop!_OS’ desktop environment, and thus to install Steam, it would have to remove the GUI and all its dependencies right on down to Xorg. This issue was discovered and a patched version was pushed to the repository, but because of the way repositories work, you can still request an older version of software.
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Linus picked Steam and clicked the install button in the Pop!_Shop. It attempted the install, saw the dependency error, and bombed out, kicking up an error message “Failed to install Steam” with a bit more text.
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Linus Sebastian, then CEO of a technology media company, comprehensively failed to google the words in the error it gave him and find several independent forum posts, Reddit threads, and Steam community discussions saying “Run apt-get update and try it again.” Instead, he got up on his high horse about Linux GUI’s not working, started fussing about how you have to do everything in the terminal, and he instead looked up how to use the terminal to install Steam.
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I don’t think he recorded his screen thoroughly enough to be sure, but either the page he found was strange or he skimmed a bit too quickly. Almost all of the time, web pages containing instructions for how to install software in a Debian-based Linux system (with the apt package manager) will instruct you to run the command
sudo apt-get updateand probablysudo apt-get upgradefirst, then probably asudo apt-get install [packagename]None of that happened, he just found the install command and ran it. -
The terminal spat out it’s usual litany of “doing stuff…” before spitting out a long list of things it was going to uninstall, followed by a warning in bold allcaps to the effect "WARNING! This operation is likely to permanently damage your operating system. You should not do this unless you know exactly what you are doing. To continue, type “Yes, do as I say.” Most of the time, a Linux system requires a y or n, and might even default to y if you just hit enter. Sometimes, in order to wake people up and kind of ask “are you sure?” it will reject a simple y and tell you to type out the word yes. Asking you to type out a complete sentence is a severe warning.
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Linus typed “Yes, do as I say.”
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APT uninstalled the entire GUI and dropped into a Bash shell.
In aviation, we talk about the accident chain. Few aviation accidents can be traced to a single brief action; instead a series of adverse events and mistakes lead up to an accident, and correcting any of them will avert disaster. Well, I count this accident chain as 8 links long. Contributing factors range from Linus’s bad attitudes and poor troubleshooting skills to the Steam package’s flawed dependencies to Pop!_OS’ flawed package manager which doesn’t refresh the apt cache on launch. The result was a crash and burn on international television.
The whole point imo was supposed to be to test linux from a point of view of a regular user, and that while surely a bit extreme, isn’t too far from what might happen when a newbie stumbles on an issue (which may or may not happen depending on luck).
Then again he did test it on uhh, quite interesting hardware that’s almost guaranteed to have issues. Maybe it would have been more fair for him to switch to a more conventional desktop for the duration of the experiment.
I didn’t really see that affecting the market share of Linux much either way. Luke who has a normal desktop also had his fair share of more minor issues and so did I when I ran fedora for a bit over half a year on my desktop last year ago, as a similar experiment. What has and will affect the market share, positively too, is the steam deck, which Linus is also a big fan of.
I still use linux a lot in my daily life even if not on my desktop, my home server runs on TrueNAS scale and I have a couple projects running on raspberry pi’s (more probably coming). But for desktop use, I’ll let it cook for a couple more years before giving it another try. Running Linux on my desktop is absolutely my dream and end goal, but unfortunately it still has too many issues specifically for my (actually very broad) use case of video editing, Photo editing, 3D modeling, graphics design, gaming and more. If it was only one of those uses, I’d be able to fairly easily come by with solutions, but when it’s all of them combined, it adds up and becomes a real chore, unfortunately.
The whole point imo was supposed to be to test linux from a point of view of a regular user, and that while surely a bit extreme, isn’t too far from what might happen when a newbie stumbles on an issue (which may or may not happen depending on luck).
A regular linux user is expected to be familiar with the OS
I meant as a regular computer user who’s new to Linux. Like most of them would be.
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There is always butthurt about him. He’s a normal user and folks can’t cope that Linux desktop is a mess for the average user.
XXXX year of the Linux desktop.
Linux is fantastic for running shit. It’s pretty terrible for most normal users to use.
Linux is fantastic for running shit. It’s pretty terrible for most normal users to use.
Skill issue.
Imagine insulting someone who said “this sucks for normal user” with get gud 🤣
Absolutely fantastic. We’ve really gone full circle.
Apparently being responsible for your own computer is too much to ask. It’s not so difficult to manage a linux install. In fact, its much easier and smoother if you are willing to become familiar with how things work. But whining that linux OS broke like Linus Sebastian from LTT when you can’t read and take responsibility is like complaining that the car didn’t save you when you crashed a manual honda civic expecting it to perform like a autopilot car. Its asinine and illogical.
We all grew up with windows and became familiar with it as that was the only choice. To insult linux and its users just because you want 100% perfection from an OS people build as a hobby for free is quite ignorant and entitled. If you don’t like linux stop commenting on programming forums.
The year of the linux desktop for me started in 2009 when I first installed ubuntu and it has been the year of the linux desktop for me since then. I have learnt to fix flaws in my system. I know what its limitations are. I don’t expect linux to fix all my problems. But i certainly do recommend it to newbies even if it might frustrate them. I expect them to take it or leave it. I don’t insult their intelligence by assuming they definitely need handholding.
Microsoft poured several billions by now into windows and it’s only getting worse day by day. If you suggest that Windows is best for daily users then it is clear that you’re just insulting people’s intelligence instead of uplifting them.
I stopped at line 1. Yes. You finally get it. It’s an appliance. It is too much to ask me to dick around being responsible for my os. I’m glad we’re making progress.
You should blame software makers and hardware vendors. Not Linux. There isn’t a Linux company that pays for vendor lock-in.
Doesn’t matter in the least bit when talking about the viability.
You’re barking up the wrong tree then. I don’t know why you would do that when you claim to be a pragmatic person. What’s exactly your beef? Care to tell me?
100%
I really don’t give a flying fuck about software privacy or open source anything. I want my computer to work with the software I need for my job, and Linux doesn’t, so it’s a non-viable OS
Define “Normal”.
Linux is fantastic for the low end user that really needs a calculator and a web browser. It really only has pain points for people in the mid tier that don’t understand technology, but have to use it a lot for work. It’s a big old bell curve.
🙄 oh God here we go with not understanding tech.
You can understand technology and dislike Linux DE. It’s so condescending.
If you understood technology, you would explicitly know why tracking within windows is dangerous. Either way. Its not a very good look for you.
🙄🙄🙄
Again with the condescension. Assuming your values have anything to do with my technical skill.
“Linux DE” is not a thing. There is no one “Linux DE”.
Hmm you seem to denigrate people for not understanding tech while seemingly giving up your privacy and $100 for Microsoft.
Do you understand not being ripped off?
Nah. I’ve never had to spend hours dicking around fixing Wayland. That’s worth its weight in gold.
Nobody is breaking Wayland except seemingly you. What are you doing that Wayland breaks for you regularly?
Edit: You know, Now I understand Microsoft’s business model. There’s always a fool like you to buy their spyware and then go to bat for them for free.
👌👍🤣
There’s more to Linux than merely installing it though.
Yeah, but that just goes to show how little he knows-- he can’t even install it right.
And when he blamed Pop!_OS for tanking his Linux Daily Driver challenge, biggest cop out ever. I had updated my Pop workstation when it happened. The issue was resolved the next day. He could have waited 24 hours and then continued his challenge unimpeded.
Actually a poser.
“YES I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING”
SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg
haha this will make for some great content
He’s just used to the warnings in Windows… now he knows Linux is NEVER EVER kidding when it says “you’re on your own on this buddy 🙌” 🤣.
Mac: “we don’t do that here”
Windows: “preeeeettttty sure you don’t want to do that one bud”
Linux: “here is your gun. Aim, steady, shoot, that simple … why are you aiming it at your foot? Ya know what, IDC glhf”
Exactly! 👍 🤣
The weapons are as good as they come, but do be careful where you aim.
What was the context for this? Was he just explaining why he wasn’t going to talk about how to install Linux during a video or something?
He made a video of how to build a pc and how to install the os. And basically if you choose Linux as a os you already know how to install it.
I guess it makes sense. There’s probably better tutorial videos out there for it
I learnt how to install Linux from some random indian YouTube video with a terrible mic and a handful of views, but explained it perfectly to my dumbass. I tried a few bigger ones and got lost or screwed up.
Best tech tutorials are ones that use screen capture and notepad to exaplain what’s going on.
With the one and only music title:
Trance - 009 Sound System Dreamscape
Gotta love those Indian dudes, always to the rescue 👍.
And they usually don’t even monetize their channels, I mean, how cool is that. I think they do it for the heck of it, like why not.
The only thing I usually ROFL on is the way they speak 🤣🤣🤣. But that’s good as well, you get a good chuckle out of it while learning how to solve your problem 🤣.
What is there to know exactly? You just follow the installer and pick languages and whatnot. It’s no different than installing Windows except that it’s faster.
It’s not like they go into detail about how to install windows either…
I think the main point they would present in a video is how to even get to the “follow the installer” stage. Where to download windows and how to make a bootable USB stick.
Don’t forget the extra steps in windows 11 for removing Microsoft spyware
Windows 10 as well. Let’s not forget Wi-Fi Sense.
The install experience is same as windows. You give few details and hit next. Unless, of course, you want to pretend that Linux is terrible and install a command line only distribution.
