Many non-US places (otherwise known as the rest of the world) have cheap wine, cheap food, and social benefits. Cigs though idk, you’d have to be insane to smoke in most developed countries because if the cancer doesn’t kill you, the prices will.
::: spoiler
Sorry to be so snarky but it’s a lot funnier to put it that way.
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at that time there was social assistance from the government that “paid” the unemployed, the amount of money given was around $69/month at that time, it existed 6 years ago but now it has been stopped. yeah, the unemployed earn $0 now if they don’t do anything but somehow they can still buy cigs or even drink
True. Bit of a tangent but one issue when you have free Healthcare the cost of smoking to individuals is lower. Genuinely it’s a problem - sometimes people don’t value their health as much as they should because of ease of access to Healthcare. I’m 1000% in favour of free Healthcare, it’s just an interesting paradox.
Public health measures focusing on increasing the cost of smoking through tax work but we don’t have the pressure to stop smoking due to the cost of Healthcare itself which can make it harder to get people to understand the effects. Meanwhile public organisations understand the cost of smoking and invest in trying to reduce it as it puts huge pressure on Healthcare systems. Not just cancer but it’s a major driver of cardiovascular disease (heart attacks, peripheral vascular disease) and lung diseases (emphysema / COPD). The costs of smoking related diseases is staggering.
Smoking is in decline across the west but we’ve known since the 1940s and 1950s definitely that smoking is bad yet smoking rates have been persistently high in Europe until more recently - last 20 years or so.
Smoking rates in France for example - 23% still smoke but there has been a huge decline in the last 20 years. Yet smoking was banned on public transport in the 1970s. To be clear I’m not saying it’s because of free Healthcare - just that in countries with good Healthcare systems there is more going on. People have known for 80 years smoking is bad and there has been a gradual decline but big shifts have happened surprisingly recently.
Edit: maybe this is a bit ott comment for a meme lol
Obesity probably fits this same issue. Having tax paid healthcare makes it a government issue to keep everybody healthy, though. So maybe it would encourage the government to make rules around encouraging healthy behavior.
I watched his videos a while ago and if I remember right he said that he just saved up money at his last job and was living off that. I’m also pretty sure he was living in London so definitely nothing cheap.
Like the previous poster said, there is a whole world out there where this sort of thing is very cheap.
In the west, everything is very expensive simply because people have the money to pay that much for it. We are working our entire lives with temporary relief now and then with overpriced alcohol. It sucks.
Im getting off the 9 to 5 myself this year and living on savings and stock market. Cant waste more of my life at work anymore but im 50 now and worked for 25 years. Im expected to continue working until im 70, but fuck that.
In dollars, about 500.000. So if stocks go up 1%, thats 5000 dollars.
My monthly costs are about half of that. So im thinking it should work out fine. Its a risk of course, but its not a huge risk to take. I think its going to be fine.
How this guy drinking wine and smoking at bistros unemployed like, he rich or what?
By making YouTube videos, duh
Many non-US places (otherwise known as the rest of the world) have cheap wine, cheap food, and social benefits. Cigs though idk, you’d have to be insane to smoke in most developed countries because if the cancer doesn’t kill you, the prices will.
::: spoiler Sorry to be so snarky but it’s a lot funnier to put it that way. :::
cigarettes are like $2 for a pack in my country lol
I’m literally crying right now as an American smoker 😭
Careful, you might overexert yourself.
Good burn, I respect it
Same here. Or they would be if they made 3 cigarette packs.
How much $ does an unemployed person receive per month there? Is it enough to swing an addiction like that?
at that time there was social assistance from the government that “paid” the unemployed, the amount of money given was around $69/month at that time, it existed 6 years ago but now it has been stopped. yeah, the unemployed earn $0 now if they don’t do anything but somehow they can still buy cigs or even drink
Any country with $2 cig packs gets $0 in unemployment.
True. Bit of a tangent but one issue when you have free Healthcare the cost of smoking to individuals is lower. Genuinely it’s a problem - sometimes people don’t value their health as much as they should because of ease of access to Healthcare. I’m 1000% in favour of free Healthcare, it’s just an interesting paradox.
Public health measures focusing on increasing the cost of smoking through tax work but we don’t have the pressure to stop smoking due to the cost of Healthcare itself which can make it harder to get people to understand the effects. Meanwhile public organisations understand the cost of smoking and invest in trying to reduce it as it puts huge pressure on Healthcare systems. Not just cancer but it’s a major driver of cardiovascular disease (heart attacks, peripheral vascular disease) and lung diseases (emphysema / COPD). The costs of smoking related diseases is staggering.
Smoking is in decline across the west but we’ve known since the 1940s and 1950s definitely that smoking is bad yet smoking rates have been persistently high in Europe until more recently - last 20 years or so.
Smoking rates in France for example - 23% still smoke but there has been a huge decline in the last 20 years. Yet smoking was banned on public transport in the 1970s. To be clear I’m not saying it’s because of free Healthcare - just that in countries with good Healthcare systems there is more going on. People have known for 80 years smoking is bad and there has been a gradual decline but big shifts have happened surprisingly recently.
Edit: maybe this is a bit ott comment for a meme lol
You’re acting like people make rational long term decisions. They don’t. Money cost of health issues is not a factor long term.
Obesity probably fits this same issue. Having tax paid healthcare makes it a government issue to keep everybody healthy, though. So maybe it would encourage the government to make rules around encouraging healthy behavior.
I like when a meme sparks a much deeper analysis and/or conversation. Keep on truckin’ (imo) 🙂
I watched his videos a while ago and if I remember right he said that he just saved up money at his last job and was living off that. I’m also pretty sure he was living in London so definitely nothing cheap.
Like the previous poster said, there is a whole world out there where this sort of thing is very cheap.
In the west, everything is very expensive simply because people have the money to pay that much for it. We are working our entire lives with temporary relief now and then with overpriced alcohol. It sucks.
Im getting off the 9 to 5 myself this year and living on savings and stock market. Cant waste more of my life at work anymore but im 50 now and worked for 25 years. Im expected to continue working until im 70, but fuck that.
How much money did you save up and what monthly costs of living are you expecting? Would love to hear more about your situation!
In dollars, about 500.000. So if stocks go up 1%, thats 5000 dollars.
My monthly costs are about half of that. So im thinking it should work out fine. Its a risk of course, but its not a huge risk to take. I think its going to be fine.
Nice, thanks for sharing!
I hope you also can get out of the rat race when you feel you had enough. :) For me I just got sick of it at 50.