Chatcontrol is once again stopped. Good work again everyone who stood up, this is once again a win everytime it is a win.

Next country that is up for Presidency is Poland 🇵🇱 who are anti-chatcontrol.

Patrick Breyer website

chatcontrol timeline

StopScanMe

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    Wait, how the fuck are only Central Europe, Finland and Estonia in support of encryption. What the actual fuck people?

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      I can only talk about France as that one is super obvious to me: They been fighting (peaceful) protests organizers. Like hacking their phones and getting all their data from all the possible platforms, in the hopes of shutting them down using the slightest thing that can get them into trouble.

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    Cool, glad for y’all.

    Hey, now that you’ve taken care of that, we’re having a little fascism problem here in America. We were wondering if you could, ya’know, return that little favor we did for ya in the 1940s?

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      We’re dealing with a little WW2 style problem ourselves with Russia eating away at Ukraine. Would love to come and help you all, but before we do anything to a country that prides itself in having the biggest stick we gotta clean up our back yard first.

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      Certain death tomorrow is better than certain death today.

      I share your pessimistic view on what this win means, but don’t get disheartened. It is still a win for privacy and citizen rights.

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    Yarrr! Pirates really deliver.

    Also, why Sweeden supports it?

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      not sure about now but the original swede handling the issue in EU was openly corrupt. which is only a crime if you’re a social democrat or further left.

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      Hey, well the reason is that both the right and left parties both want this to pass. They say its to “protect the children” even if this law would violate the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Also they want to use the crime rate to justify this law of mass surveillance.

      If you want to know more about us Swedish Pirates you can visit our website there is a link to the English version! https://piratpartiet.se/en/

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      I was also very surprised to see Sweden back this. The Swedes have started changing dramatically since Russian invasion of Ucrain. Neutral for decades now in NATO.

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    It’s insane that this bullshit can be pushed again and again and again. It gives me some comfort that they have still not succeeded, but they only need to succeed once, and if they are not blocked from putting this forward again, we would have to succeed again and again and again.

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      It would help if European voters stopped behaving like spoiled children and voting for wannabe dictators because inflation or immigration or whatever.

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          Then run for election. That’s the point of democracy. If our leaders are bad, there’s no one to blame but ourselves.

          Obligatory addendum: A downvote does not constitute a counter-argument.

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            The problem is countries like Hungary, where 70% of the population is rural, don’t speak a word of English and all they consume is state controlled terrestrial media

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              Agreed, it’s definitely a problem. And in fact it’s even worse because it turns out that today’s supposedly progressive and well-informed youngsters in fact get their news from TikTok and tend to vote for authoritarian populists even in western Europe.

              Again: downvoting facts, sticking one’s fingers in one’s ears and going “lalalalala”, does not make the facts go away. It is an inconvenient fact that far-right parties across Europe are doing particularly well among young voters.

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                I find it kind of ironic how you complain about downvotes while supporting democracy. I’m not saying whether I agree or disagree with you, I’m not saying either if I think you are right or wrong. But just like in a democracy votes represent the opinion of those who decided to vote. Being right won’t mean you get the votes. You should just accept them and stop complaining about them.

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                  No, adding something useful to the discussion should get you a vote. The fact that other idiots agree with you does not magically make your contribution thoughtful, or insightful, or productive in any other way.

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            You can’t run for politics unless you’re already a known figure with a wide reach. Please don’t pretend that our iteration of democracy isn’t extremely insular and gatekept.

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                You make it sound like it’s trivial to get a position of political power when said position is already being vied for by several people, many of which have way more money and resources than the average lemming

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                  Most of politicians at least here in Europe have not started with a lot of money. You first start in communal politics, then when you’ve shown your skills in that, your party gives you more visibility among the general public. And then you might get to the national parliament, and if you’re doing your job well there, you might end up in a position where you become interesting for voting in as a MEP. Or as the president of your country.

                  You cannot get into the national parliament out of nowhere, but I don’t really know why you should. It’s a very tough job, and it’s good that you’ve first had to gather some experience from communal politics before that.

                  Though, this is of course only how it works with leftist and centrist parties. In the right wing parties the system is apparently somewhat different. But that’s one of the reasons I wouldn’t vote them anyway.