• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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    I was once mistaken for an employee somewhere and my sleep deprivated response was to say “I am wearing pants so clearly I dont work here.” I have no fucken clue what that means but I think it was a threat.

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    I refuse to use them as a union worker, when I’m told to use the self checkout as I’m in line for the only cashier I just refuse. I’m doing it for you kids

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    Self checkout in the PNW rules.

    Self checkout in South (east) Florida sucks.

    Why? Because the volume is on 11, and the customer base is as dumb as a rock. Seriously, stand at any self checkout in SF for 10’ minutes and watch.

    In 11 minutes you will either want to kill them or yourself, sometimes it’s a tossup.

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    Not wanting to do free work for a company (they don’t even give you a discount if you use self-service) is being a boomer?

    That’s the first time I’ve seen the word “boomer” on the opposite side of the word “sucker”.

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      Refuse to do free work for a company—insist that the grocery store employees go and gather the items on your list from the shelves for you! Never set foot on the sales floor, do pickup orders online only!

      Background: It used to be that the proprietor of a store brought items you requested to the counter for you. In 1916, Piggly Wiggly pioneered a new grocery store model, requiring/allowing the customers to pick items off of the shelves themselves. Not only did they not give you a discount for doing their work for them, they raked in more money from impulse purchases. The increased sales more than offset the increase in shoplifting losses. A cynical, corporate ploy to bleed customers dry, and we just think it’s normal now!

      That is to say, the purpose of a grocery store is to provide food in exchange for currency. There’s no law of nature that I know of that says that having an underpaid teenager drag your food across the scanner is the only proper way to do check-out, just like there isn’t one that says only a store employee can pick items from the shelf.

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      Exactly! Back in my day, people used to fill up my gas for me and carry my things up to my hotel room. Young people are getting lazy and entitled! Corporations need to make them work harder. Makes it hard to humiliate the poors if they make ME do the work.

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        Tbh back then the pay was more fairly in line with cost of living for some of the jobs. however, it has been a good 20 or so year since it was more fair. Nowadays, it is absolutely scary the cost of living. it’s down right criminal.

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      I am and I’m not. If it’s like 2 items, give me a self checkout. If it’s over 15. Bring on a cashier.

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        I always prefer self checkout because too many people suck at bagging.

        Don’t put a leaking pack of meat with my deli you dumb shit. All while I see people pushing full carts that have meat touching produce…

        The only place I trust to bag for me is Trader Joe’s. Tetris masters over there.

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    Reading the comments, do people not like self checkout? Is it another one of these American things, that baffle the rest of the world? Like grocery baggers. I’m European, living in Poland and Denmark and if given the choice, I will always pick the store with self checkout. It’s simply faster. Only old people don’t use self check out, not because of boomer ideology, but because they need the cashier’s help.

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    I get being mean to walmart because corporations are bad but being needlessly rude to random employees rubs me the wrong way. Most of us can’t get a job anywhere better despite having a degree. We have to deal with the mental abuse of people constantly treating us like dog shit just because we exist. The job situation is so fucked right now. I should not be having to compete with people that have masters degrees and decades of experience for tech support jobs that pay $15 an hour. Fuck this broken society.

    The last time I was not underemployed was 2018.

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    I enjoy turning this one around. “Oh, you’re one of those socialists who wants everybody else to do your work for you, too lazy to lift your own groceries. Nobody wants to work anymore!”

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    When I bring my banana through the cashier lane they give me a dirty look. But when I ride one of the lawnmowers inside and try to mount a self check out, I get kicked out of the store. MAKE UP YOUR MIND!

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    Boomer uncle literally drives his electric bill payment to the local office to pay it when they have a perfectly fine online portal.

    Same exact response ‘that’s someone’s job’ like the employee actually has a say.

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      Most corporate bill portals I’ve personally used were terrible and charged me a significant convenience fee for using them.

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        None of my utilities charge a fee. Seems foreign to me. Usually only the bmv charges one online.

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      There’s no justification from a pure convenience standpoint, but I could respect the pettiness if the electric company ran their shit like one local government office in my hometown, where there was this small annual fee they charged like $9 for…but then to pay it, you could either mail in a check, hand deliver cash or check or card…or pay online…where they added a $5 “convenience fee” to a sub-$10 payment.

      You bet your ass that I paid that shit in person every year, in loose change, and requested a receipt (which they had to write up manually because they didn’t have a system to process and print one).

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        No fee for the portal. His only justification was it is some human interaction, which is fine. Just feels like a boomer mentality.

        Hell, you can even pay through a check via the banks online portal. Dude doesn’t have a cell phone and never has.

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        My city’s water bill went from a free online portal to a shittier one with a fee. I pay it by check now out of pettiness.

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        I live by this philosophy

        If you charge me more to make both our lives easier, I will make both our lives harder out of spite.

        It will cost you more than the fee you tried to squeeze out of me, and I will have spent nothing.

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      Well, the funny thing is… it IS somebody’s job, and they get paid for it. There more they push “self service” the less workers they’re hiring and paying wages to, and the more your ever-increasing grocery bill just goes to pad some executive’s bonus so they can buy a bigger boat or whatever.

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      What about the jobs of the people that maintain the online portal though??

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        Well…fuck em, I guess!

        If they’re charging so much that the local govt needs to pass that on in the form of a $5 fee on a $9 payment, they’re either gouging, or have an unsustainable business model.

        Either way, fuck 'em.

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        Most of them are useless and horruble ti use. Don’t get me wrong I love the cinvinience, but they need to hire competant designers/dev.

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    So this is pro-self checkout? Why would you be pro self checkout? Besides the extra time and effort for the customer to check out if they have more than a couple items, I recently read an article saying that even for the companies they haven’t worked out: besides the problems and delays they cause where they have to provide employee assistance anyway (“Unexpected item in bag”, etc), they’ve lost more to theft and are having to spend more money on adding more anti-theft tech, etc. One company they interviewed is phasing them out.

    (edit after reading some comments) The article also talked about people getting in trouble for accidentally not getting something scanned.

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      I LOVE self-checkouts for small shopping. No human interaction bullshit. Just beep your stuff, whip out your card and go. Rarely do I encounter technical problems.

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      For me it’s not the time spent at the checkout that matters, it’s the time spent waiting at the checkout. Also over here cashiers don’t bag your items for you, so you have to do that anyway

      Also also, they have these really handy hand scanners over here so I can already bag my items while I’m walking through the store, and then the only thing I have to do at self-checkout is hand in the scanner and pay for the groceries. That is genuinely a lot faster than normal cash register shenanigans.

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        Also over here cashiers don’t bag your items for you, so you have to do that anyway

        I’m a lot faster at bagging when I’m not also scanning. The human cashier divides the labor to two people, which makes it faster.

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      Because the store is packed, they only have 2 cashiers on shift and I want to go home.

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        It’s almost as if they do underman the tills on purpose to force people to do the checkout work themselves for free …

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      Why would you be pro self checkout? Besides the extra time and effort for the customer to check out if they have more than a couple items

      In what alternate reality does self-checkout take more time and effort?

      • If you go to a cashier then you have to wait in line. At my local supermarket there is one cashier vs. 16 self-checkout machines. Even if you go at an extremely busy time there is almost always a self-checkout machine available.
      • With self-checkout you simply scan the items from your basket and put them in your bag. With the cashier you have put all your items on the conveyor belt, wait for them to be scanned, then put them in your bag.
      • If you have more than a few items you simply grab a hand-scanner or just use the app on your phone and scan the items as you put them in your cart. Then you just go to a self-checkout machine and pay. No unloading the cart at checkout, you just pay and take your cart to your car.

      the problems and delays they cause where they have to provide employee assistance anyway (“Unexpected item in bag”, etc)

      What do you mean unexpected item in bag? The self checkout machine can’t look into my bag.

      The article also talked about people getting in trouble for accidentally not getting something scanned.

      Never seen that happen. You get random bag checks before you pay (so at that point it’s technically not theft). If you missed something, they simply re-scan all the items and you pay the correct amount, that’s all.

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        In the name of theft prevention and legal compliance, they do not give self checkout customers the same powers as actual cashier employees:

        • Self checkout customers cannot verify their own age for age-restricted items.
        • Self checkout customers cannot scan something and report the number of duplicates (e.g., scan a can and punch in that you’re buying 8 of them).
        • In most stores, self checkout customers are policed by the system to make sure that each item is placed onto a scale that weighs everything, and stops the process if weights don’t match up.
        • The ergonomics and flow of self checkout doesn’t allow for a conveyor belt style rapid scanning, because a self checkout station is a tighter space and tends to require bagging as you scan, instead of scanning and bagging separately and independently.
        • The frequency of produce code entries means that customers tend to be much slower to enter foods that don’t have bar codes.

        As a result, self checkout tends to be slower for customers who have more than 20 items. That might be offset if there’s a longer line for regular cashier, but if there’s no line the employee cashier is much faster.

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          From my personal experience, scanning things by yourself instead of more experienced cashier is somewhat slower (maybe 20-40% for large amounts?) for reasons you provided. The thing is, you don’t have to replace one cashier with one self-checkout, instead you may put like 5 of them and assign one employee to supervise them and solve things that need intervention like verifying age. Also when not in use (low amount of customers) they probably cost tiny fraction of employee’s wage. Idk about thefts though.

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      Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that the mighty MBA class are actually just short-sighted, trend-hopping, avaricious shitbags?

      Yeah, if you can’t pay people enough to notice and/or care if I steal from you, I get to steal from you. Them’s the rules.

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        “If you aren’t able to stop me, I get to rape you. Them’s the rules.”

        That’s how fucking stupid you sound.

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          So, to be clear, are you saying that stealing from a corporation is equally as bad as raping someone?

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      They are HUGELY advantageous to shoplifters. My local grocery store did it for a few years and stopped all together.

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      I just like the feeling of privacy. When the staff redirects customers to the cashiers because there’s less queue than at the self checkout, I pretend not to hear with my headphones on.

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        Same. I’m one of the few people that prefers self checkout. Covid was a magical time for me while grocery shopping. No one awkwardly had to smile after eye contact, everyone gave space and avoided each other, just get in and get out without ever taking out my headphones. Self check out is always faster where I’m from too.

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            Ditto. Then, when we went back to “normal,” I felt like I had to pretend to hate it because everyone else hated it so much. For me, it felt like freedom and relief.

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        I only prefer self checkout when I’m buying rubbers and lube. Anything else I’d rather have the checkout person scan and bag for me.

        If you have social anxiety, the checkout person conversation is one of the easiest interactions for you to practice those skills on. “Hello, here are my items, thank you” is about the gist of what’s necessary.